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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:55 PM
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Shin Bet Vetoed Secret Israeli-Palestinian Peace Agreement
Shin Bet Vetoed Secret Israeli-Palestinian Peace Agreement

PRESS RELEASE

Drafted by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, Department of International Relations, University of Sussex

For immediate release 28.7.06

SHIN BET VETOED SECRET ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN PEACE AGREEMENT

Israeli and Palestinian Sources Concur: Israel Made War Inevitable

The Omega Institute (OI), which works closely with the Institute for Policy Research for Development (IPRD), has learned from Israeli and Palestinian sources that just prior to the current crisis, senior Hamas leaders were in active dialogue with Israeli religious leaders in a round of bilateral peace negotiations. Israeli negotiators included Rabbi Menachem Froman, former deputy leader and co-founder of the Israeli Settler movement Gush Khatif; Rabbi David Bigman, head of the liberal religious Kibbutz movement Yeshiva at Ma’ale Gilboa; and Yitzhak Frankenthal, founder of the Arik Institute. Ongoing negotiations had resulted in a breakthrough peace “understanding”, which was to be announced at a press conference in Jerusalem to mark the launching of an extraordinary peace initiative. Israeli Prime Minister Olmert had been briefed extensively about the initiative by Frankenthal. Also due to attend the conference were Khaled Abu Arafa, the Palestinian Cabinet Minister for Jerusalem, Sheikh Muhamed Abu Tir, senior Hamas Member of the Palestinian Parliament, and other senior Palestinian delegates.

The meeting was to announce a joint Israeli-Palestinian call for the release of Corporal Gilad Shalit who had been abducted by Hamas in Gaza, along with proposals for the beginning of the release of all Palestinian prisoners. These measures were to precipitate unprecedented new peace negotiations on a framework peace agreement, drawn on the 1967 borders. The presence of Palestinian Cabinet Officers and senior Israeli religious leaders in contact with the Prime Minster was to underline the seriousness of this peace proposal on both sides.

Just hours before the meeting was due to start, the Israeli Shin Bet internal Security Service arrested Abu Tir and Abu Arafa and warned them not to attend the meeting, under threats of detention. The meeting, which offered a major opportunity to obtain Shalit’s release and launch a new framework for peace, was thrown into disarray. The next day, the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) invaded Gaza, and the day after both Abu Tir and Abu Arafa were abducted by Israeli forces, along with a third of the Palestinian Cabinet, provoking a predictable escalation of violence.

Israel simultaneously began conducting covert incursions on to Lebanese territory, provoking Hizbollah’s capture of two IDF soldiers. Credible sources confirm that the soldiers were not abducted on Israeli territory, but inside Lebanon. Like the scuppered peace negotiations, Western officials have ignored this, and misinformed the media. However, some reports corroborate the sources. Israeli officials, for instance, informed Forbes (12.7.06) that “Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from Israel.”...

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:05 PM
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1. It's part of the Israeli "no-partner-for-peace" strategy. n/t
PB
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:06 PM
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2. So this whole 'war' was a calculation made by Israel to
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 01:12 PM by babylonsister
get into it regardless of the number of innocents caught up in this mess.

This info, coupled with leveymg's thread, does not paint a pretty picture.
Does dimson have this much clout over there to make this happen?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1755758
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:07 PM
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3. I don't know anything about this source. Not criticizing or anything...
But I have no idea about the credibility of this report, even though it wouldn't be very odd to me (the government of Israel wants to be the only organization that speaks for Israel in peace negotiations)...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:09 PM
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4. And yet, some people here insist that Israel only wants peace.
The violence is always someone else's fault.
:eyes:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 02:31 PM
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7. Absolutely.
Any time a Palestinian tapes a bomb to a teenager and sends him to detonate himself on a bus or in a market square, it's Israel's fault. No one else has any responsibility.

Of course not. It's so obvious.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 02:40 PM
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8. Funny how you ignore everything Israel does.
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 02:41 PM by ThomCat
Whenever Israel builds a wall around a Palestinian village so that they can't come or go without getting harrassed by Israeli guards it's not Israel's fault.

Whenever Israel bulldozes a community it's not Israel's fault.

Whenever Israel drops a missile on Palestinian families while they're bathing at the beach it's not Israel's fault.

Whenever Israel blocks international aid and releaf efforts sent to help the Palestinians it's not Israel's fault.

And while you're blaming Arabs for everything bad that ever happens, you haven't addressed the OP. Israel is responsible for this current round of violence.

I admit that suicide bombers are terrorists. I also see that they do it out of desperation. Do you see the causes of that desperation? How about opening your eyes and looking around?
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:39 PM
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5. I said I wasn't going to discuss this topic anymore
But, I'm going to simplify my feelings down to a couple of sentences. Besides, I've already braced myself for attack by the pro-Israeli propagandists that come out whenever Israel is discussed and attack, attack, attack anyone who doesn't think Israel has a right to kill all the arabs they think my be a threat. Have at me. You're not going to change my mind.

Boiled down to the basics...

When you kick hundreds of thousands of people out of their homes, and make their farms, homes, cities, villages yours instead of theirs overnight, what do you expect will happen? Do you expect them to go quietly, saying oh well, we must give up our lives so another group may have a "homeland." What, exactly do people expect the palastinians would have done when told Israel was being created out of their homes?

I don't care about the politics of Israel having a right to exist-- to me that's a straw man. I don't think Israel should have been created, but I don't have a time machine. They exist now, therefore they have a right to peace and to a homeland.

Someone, please, I'm begging you, tell me what you think the palastinians should have done? Should they have just moved away quietly? Gotten on trains and buses and begged to be taken in elsewhere by the Arab world? If they should have stayed and lived in peace, how were they supposed to support themselves? Feed themselves? Aquired new land?

I don't think they should be murdering people. Let me just state that for the record. I think a Ghandi type figure leading the palastinians through passive resistance and non-violence (and a good PR firm) would get them a lot further ahead than murdering civilians. But seriously, what the hell did people expect would happen when Israel was created?

I can't help but think of my Lakota ancestors and how they fared with the "birth" of the united states. Maybe in 1800 years, the world governing body will return the North-Central US to my people and kick out all the people living there. Good bye, the Dakotas! Hello, Lakota homeland. Hey, it could happen, right?
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 05:59 PM
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11. Bravo!
Also, Mustafa Barghouti has been trying non-violent resistance. It's kind of tough when the opposite side shoots anyway.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 02:17 PM
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6. Oh my God!
This is outrageous!
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smacky44 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:15 PM
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9. No, what is outrageous is that neither our media or our Congress are
aware of this, or if they are, they are purposely keeping it from the American people.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 05:01 PM
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10. Time to "BE THE MEDIA" ... Spread it around!
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:06 AM
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12. Two background pieces...
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:55 AM
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13. Sounds about right...
This narrative is at least based on some form of reality; at least in this narrative, people, places, names and motives are fully explained.

To dispute this is to contend that the Israeli kidnapping/capture/arrests of elected Hamas government was an operational response to Hamas violence, when in fact it ensures that NO negotiations would continue on any level, including this peace plan, or the release of the soldier, or anything else.

Israel concluded that brutal force was the ONLY response even though there was an active set of negotiations going on regarding this as well as Hamas negotiating 'recognition' of Israel.

Now is it true?

Here is an Time story written about this prior to the current 'ramp up'. Note there is a slant, but the elements of the above story's contention are present.

    Abbas' Referendum Gamble Risks a Palestinian Backlash

    Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has issued an ultimatum to the elected Hamas government: Accept a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict based on Israel returning to its 1967 borders, or face a referendum on the issue. But the fact that Abbas on Tuesday extended the deadline for compliance by another three days suggests that he may be starting to realize what other observers already know — that if Hamas calls his bluff, Abbas could suffer yet another repudiation by Palestinian voters.

    It's not that Hamas necessarily rejects the proposal, which is contained in a a document drawn up by prisoners from its own faction as well as Abbas's Fatah movement currently doing time in Israeli jails. Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh has already offered Israel peace in the form of a "long-term truce" if it withdraws to its 1967 borders, and Hamas is in fact in discussions with Fatah over that very issue. But Hamas, not surprisingly, is unwilling to accept Abbas's ultimatum. "I am not prepared to act with a gun to my head," Haniyeh said Monday.
    ....

    One answer, perhaps, is that Abbas believes that adopting the prisoners' plan will negate Israel's claim that it has no Palestinian negotiating partner, making it more difficult for Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to move ahead with plans to unilaterally redraw Israel's borders. But there's clearly a domestic political agenda, too: The grassroots-level Fatah warlords on whose support Abbas is increasingly dependent have, ever since they lost the January election to Hamas, agitated for an aggressive strategy to topple the new government.
    Time


Of course the people that claim they want Peace for Israel and then consistently approve Likud's arbitrary brutal methods to obtain it is usually explain away these and many attempts to a real roadmap to peace by demanding a list of pre-conditions that ONLY one side has to follow -- which are typically the VERY issues under negotiation. So it's not really negotiating.

If you notice that this Process was lost almost immediately, even though it would have at the least given Israel the recognition from Hamas that it had demanded. Events on the ground, largely at the instigation of Israel (arrests, assassinations, civilian massacres) went from a simple kidnapping in Gaza against a background of active negotiations to an immediate propaganda escalation that necessarily included Hezbollah and then added the regional actors of Syria and Iran.

If you notice that the key to all this is to expand the number of actors in the conflict to preclude ANY possibility of a negotiation as obviously the national aspirations of both Iran and Syria are separate and distinct from what Hezbollah and the Palestinian organizations aspirations. Does anyone really dispute the fact that Syria and Iran are using these groups cynically as 'proxies' for their own ambitions. Nope...not in the least. Of course neither the US or Israel have impure motives, no more than the 'proxy' armies or freedom fighters the US financed in Afghanistan or El Salvador.

The Arab Muslims MUST look like they are the same in their motives and their actions co-ordinated by some central anti-semitic impulse and so that eliminates any real incentive to ever TAKE their actions towards peace or settlement seriously. In the US, even though a group might be simply negotiating something innocuous like CO emission controls, some political elements will wrap their opposition to it in terms of an attack on 'national sovereignty'. This is the tactic Israel has consistently used -- avoid negotiations through calculated single statements that contend it's sovereignty is in jeopardy.

But people know that it is not Israel's sovereignty that is being threaten, but what it DOES with that sovereignty that is being opposed. It has always been important that Israel be given this exceptional exemption to international law, standards or even existing settlement mechanisms. It doesn't matter if it is a coalition of Israeli legislators and Muslim clergy and academics or the UN or even the proposals from Israel's own peace groups -- they are all presented as a threat to Israel's existence...CONSISTENTLY.
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