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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:52 PM
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Peace deal at UN is clouded by Israeli ambiguity

Peace deal at UN is clouded by Israeli ambiguity

Olmert appears to accept text hours after shocking security council by insisting on going ahead with Lebanon offensive

Julian Borger in Jerusalem, Oliver Burkeman in New York and Ewen MacAskill
Saturday August 12, 2006
The Guardian


Mr Olmert had ordered the launch of an all-out ground offensive only a few hours before the UN vote was taken, and massed Israeli tanks along the northern border were seen making final preparations to move into southern Lebanon, where they were intended, according to the IDF plan, to advance as much as 30km up to the Litani river.

Despite the UN agreement, Mr Olmert did not call his forces back and IDF officials were quoted in the Haaretz newspaper as saying the offensive would "continue forward with full power" and that all the units assigned to take part in the invasion force had been deployed to forward positions.

The IDF general staff, which has been criticised for failing to suppress Hizbullah rocket fire in the first month of fighting, is determined to inflict more damage on the Shia militia before a halt is called. A failure to neutralise Hizbullah would widely be seen as a military defeat inside Israel.

According to the New York Times, Israel has asked the US to supply the IDF with short range anti-personnel rockets which scatter fragmentation grenades over a wide area. The report said Israel intended to use them against Hizbullah rocket launcher sites, which have so far proved elusive to Israeli artillery.

more details here......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1843127,00.html
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Viracocha Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 07:44 PM
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1. Wanna know who's really the aggressor?
Edited on Wed Dec-06-06 07:50 PM by Viracocha
Just two quotes will sum it up, and they're both by David Ben-Gurion, Israel's version of our own George Washington:

"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

-Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. ... Behind the terrorism is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice."

-- David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

So if oceans of blood were shed and millions of lives were sacrificed during WW2 on the principle that one nation does not have the right to take the land that belongs to another people, then why were Zionists given permission to do the same thing in The Palestine that we wouldn't allow the Germans to do in Europe?

Better yet, why do we unconditionally support a state that has a proven track record of spying on the US and selling state secrets to our rivals, refuses to sign the NPT, refuses to allow inspections of its nuclear facilities, willfully ignores UN resolutions, and was caught red-handed framing Arabs for terrorist attacks on us and our allies? What has the Israeli government done to actually DESERVE our support? So far all I see is support from the US due to threats of blackmail, assassination, and misguided religious interpretations.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 08:50 PM
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2. As A Matter Of Curiousity, Mr. Viracocha
Please detail the assassinations committed by Israel that secured United States support for that country....

"The wise victor presents his demands in installments."
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:14 PM
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3. August 12th, 2006?
That's when this article was published?

Am I missing something?
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:28 PM
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4. Locking
Article was fine when it was originally posted back in August. However, to kick it now is woefully off topic and against I/P guidelines.

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