Turkey: Sign reads ‘Israeli murderers keep out’

[Scurrilous]

Sign hung above clothing store in southern city of Alanya; Israeli tourist who photographed sign: Even on the way back to the cruise ship someone asked me if I was a solider and if I enjoy killing children

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3291342,00.html

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"A sign reading “For Children killers Israelis No Sale, No Entry ” welcomed Israel tourists who passed by a clothing store in the city of Alanya in south Turkey.

The city is frequented by many Israelis, who arrive mainly on cruse ships during the summer.

“We entered the store because I didn’t notice the sign, which was hung very high,” said Nimrod Buchman, 25, of central Israel, who was on a trip with his girlfriend.

“The Turks immediately recognize Israelis, and therefore they asked us if we are soldiers and if we are capable of murdering children. They told us to leave and did not let us go inside. I had to take a photo of the shocking sign.”

[Kutjara]

1. The Israeli should have asked the shopkeeper...

...if he'd killed any Kurds lately.

As if any of us have clean hands in this world.

[azurnoir]

3. But, but they're

terra'ists too. At least the ones that support the PKK, that is now that there is no need for anti-Saddam propaganda. When there was a need they were noble martyrs and allies.

[MrPrax]

4. Or,

The Israelis when they get back, can work for a ban on Turkish tourists when they travel to Israel, as is their right in their OWN country...as is the right of Turks in theirs.

[cali]

6. Yeah, that's really the way

to promote understanding and peace.

[MrPrax]

10. Why set the bar so high

for simple Turkish merchants?

Since when has the West in the last 5 years promoted understanding and peace.

Excuse me if I am wrong, but part of the rationale for attacking Lebanon was to make a compelling case to the Lebanese people to 'disarm' Hezbullah or else they would all suffer the consequences, no?

So where is the problem for Turkish shopkeepers (or any shopkeepers) figuring that if they 'sanction' Israeli tourists they're then they are sending a message to all of Israel?

Why does the US 'sanction' Cuba? It's doesn't like the regime, no? The Cuban people of course suffer, but it's deemed more vital that the rulers' suffer? Iraq sanctions? Same thing?

If the only real voice ME merchants have is to refuse Israeli business, then why would it be a problem under the rules we in the west have set?

We restrict and sanction all the time?

:shrug:

[BushOut06]

2. The sign was in English?

Why not Turkish, or Hebrew? If it was aimed at Israelis, wouldn't it make sense to have the sign in Hebrew or Yiddish? I smell something fishy here.

[Mir]

8. English is one

of the three official languages of Israel (Hebrew & Arabic). Every citizen is required to study it for years in school and so all Israelis who grew up in Israel can read English signs.

[Recursion]

13. English is one language a Turk and an Israeli...

...are both likely to know. Lebanese and Jordanians often talk to each other in French, too. Colonialism leaves a long trail.

[breakaleg]

5. It sucks that this happens, but those shop owners are

venting their frustration with Israel in this war and they've chosen sides.

[newyorican]

7. Once again, not surprising...

Why is every instance of Israelis being shunned (rightly or wrongly) elicit a "mouth-agape" response?

A blithering idiot could have predicted this type of response, and there's more to come.

[cali]

9. What mouth agape responses?

Let's see; Scurrilous, who posted this, is strongly pro-Palestinian, and what followed were simply comments- some in disagreement with the OP, some not. Hardly the response you characterized it as. In other words, your assessment is nonsensical.

[newyorican]

12. The responses in reply to the article...

...it is at the link on the Ynet News site.

The responses there are exactly as I described it.

In other words, I simply read what was at the link provided without feeble attempts at one-up-man-ship aimed at fellow "forumites". It is something (reading the article with responses) I have a habit of doing before posting here. I recommend the practice to any and all.

[Andromeda]

11. Turkey didn't spread any good will

when they slaughtered the Armenians in 1915 and never recognized their own wrongdoings either. They haven't any right to take the "moral highground."

Israelis are better off spending their money in countries where they engender good will and hospitality, not hate and ignorance.

[Recursion]

14. I doubt any of those shopkeepers were alive in 1915

"Turkey" as such is not an entity with lasting culpability, any more than "Israel" or "Djibouti" are. Those shopkeepers, at this moment, are angry at present Israeli actions and lashing out (though not perhaps very smartly).

This board looks to the past way too much. How many Palestinians are alive who lost land in 1948? How many Israelis are alive who had to flee Europe in WWII? Not many, but their children are all acting like what happened to their parents somehow confers moral legitimacy on them; as if responsibilities and entitlements could be inherited.