'Israel destroyed 6000 homes'

[Scurrilous]

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"Six thousand homes were completely destroyed and 13000 damaged by Israeli bombardment of south Lebanon, according to the head of Jihad al-Bina, Hezbollah's reconstruction organisation.

Adnan Samuri said a survey had been carried out of damage to 115 villages, where 250 volunteers - including dozens of engineers - were working to rebuild buildings destroyed by Israeli shelling and air strikes.

So far, 3000 families whose homes were completely destroyed have been compensated by Hezbollah with enough money to rent alternative accommodation for a year and to buy furniture.

Another 3000 families will be given money next week, he said.

"From next week, teams from Jihad al-Bina, accompanied by foremen, carpenters and stonemasons, will arrive in the villages to begin repair work" if the residents want them to, said Samuri.

"For those who want it and who have the means to pay, repair work can begin immediately, as long as they have a municipality certificate on the state of their property and they keep invoices for later reimbursement," he added."

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Middle_East/0,,2-10-2075_1990198,00.html

[aquart]

1. Hezbollah is now the de facto government aid agency in Lebanon?

Governments get their money from taxes. Where does Hezbollah get its money?

[Scurrilous]

3. Apparently Hezbollah has a 'fundraising arm'...

Report: US freezes Hizbullah assets

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3297468,00.html

Washington Post reports that Bush administration moved against central fundraising arm of terror group, made it illegal for Americans to contribute to organization

<snip>

"The Bush administration moved on Tuesday against a key fundraising arm of Hizbullah , and ordered a freeze on its assets, the Washington Post reported. In addition the administration made it illegal for Americans to contribute to the organization.

The United States regards Hizbullah as a terrorist organization, although the European Union has refused to join in that designation, partially due to the group's array of social services, the Post reported."

[Sherman A1]

2. That would be the results of a

highly trained military, using "precision" guided munitions, operating with well information provided by a superb intelligence branch or would it just be carpet bombing?

[hack89]

9. Too few deaths for carpet bombing

I think you seriously underestimate the power of modern weapons.

[Sherman A1]

11. Not at all - been a student of warfare for years.

[hack89]

22. So 1000 deaths in 30 days = carpet bombing?

If the Israelis were serious there would have been 1000 deaths per hour. They were clearly not trying to maximize civilian deaths.

[breakaleg]

23. There's a fine line between trying to maximize civilian casualties

and depraved indifference. In this case, that line is so thin, it doesn't matter which one actually occurred.

When you bomb civilian homes and apartment buildings, crowded residential areas, civilians die.

[FlavaKreemSnak]

4. Will Israel make the European troops take the money away from them?

I think this is going to make Israel mad, and it will make us mad as well because they will say it can be used for terrorist propaganda to try to make Israellook bad and especially so close to the Katrina anniversary make us look bad too.

But how will they get the money away from them? Because if they don't the people will build new houses that will have to be re-bombed and the plan might have been to bomb some new areas. So then I guess we could say that Hezbollah owes us money for the extra bombs.

But didn't they do a poll that showed we don't think our troops should have to go enforce the occupation and that other countries should do more to help with the war on terror?

[newyorican]

7. The U.S. and Israel...

need no help in "looking bad". They do that quite splendidly without assistance.

[Behind the Aegis]

5. The ever decreasing numbers.

Why just this week I read it was almost 40000 homes COMPLETELY destroyed. 6000 is bad enough.

[IntiRaymi]

6. It would help if you supported your arguments.

Link, please.

[Englander]

10. ~~

[Behind the Aegis]

12. Just from page one of I/P

Israel accused of war crimes in Lebanon

The United Nations children's fund, UNICEF, estimates that some 1,183 people died, mostly civilians and about a third of them children, while the Lebanese Higher Relief Council says 4,054 people were injured and 970,000 displaced. U.N. officials reported that around 15,000 civilian homes were destroyed.

source

(Emphasis added. Also note you were a participant in that thread, as was Englander.)

Lebanon Considers Suing Israel for War Crimes


Whatever we're talking about are nothing else but actions that have led to more than 1,300 dead, a third of them being children; more than 4,000 wounded; one million Lebanese displaced, forcefully displaced by the Israeli Army, the Israeli aggression. We have hundreds of bridges that have been destroyed, roads, infrastructure, homes. In excess of 14,000 homes were destroyed, leveled down to the ground. There has been an unimaginable aggression against civilians. Particularly now, we still see the wounds in cluster bombs that have littered civilian areas that also are in violation of international law. The list could be very long.

source

(Emphasis added. Again, you participated in this thread.)

Hizbullah's efficiency leaves Lebanese government behind

An estimated 15,000 homes were destroyed by the Israeli raids across Southern Lebanon.

source

(No Emphasis added. Again, you participated in this thread.)

[IntiRaymi]

13. Thank you for posting several credible sources, and so clearly linked.

Thank you, as well, for posting information that states that Israel has destroyed around 15000 homes, and not merely 6000.

[Englander]

15. Yeah, & it only took 2 days for them to appear!

Although I'm not sure what the linkage to the original claim of 40,000 is...

[Behind the Aegis]

19. Oh...so G-d forbid people have a life!

[Behind the Aegis]

17. or so you think.

Which are correct? The 6000 or the ones you didn't bother to read?!

[Englander]

14. What happened to the '40,000' claim?

Since that was the original claim, I'm wondering where that disappeared to, or what the source for
it was?

Thanks for the links, btw, I'll have to remember to include the fact that the Israeli forces destroyed
15,000 homes in Lebanon, in addition to the rest of the civilian infrastructure that was targeted,
the next time anyone isn't fully aware of the war crimes committed by the Israeli forces. Also, it's
good to see that leftist sources such as DemocracyNow!, & Lebanese sources such as the Daily Star,
are now considered credible, by yourself.

[newyorican]

16. 40,000? Hyperbole much?

Damn that editing deadline!!1one!

:rofl:

[Behind the Aegis]

18. You know what I read?

Some how I doubt that!

[Behind the Aegis]

20. .

http://liberty05.com/

[Englander]

21. I wouldn't recommend anyone clicking that above link-

I just did, & Firefox crashed. There wasn't any mention of '40,000 homes destroyed', either, which
is rather predictable, that the original claim isn't based on anything that's actually happened.

[newyorican]

8. Just a thought...

but if my house was destroyed, 3 families would lose their home (multi-family dwelling) including mine.

Perhaps the terms are going back and forth between buildings and homes in a loose manner.

That being said, being classified as a destroyer of homes -- those advocating for Israel in this appear extremely small-minded if the discussion is one of scale.

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