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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 02:53 PM
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Hamas says will not join new Palestinian cabinet
The Palestinian militant group Hamas said on Sunday it would not join a Palestinian cabinet expected to be formed this week that officials have said would probably include a Hamas supporter.

"The Hamas movement has not participated in any previous governments and will not take part in the forthcoming new government," Hamas said in a statement faxed to Reuters in Beirut.

The statement added that it was Hamas policy not to participate
in any government "whose program is based on the Oslo accords that squander the rights of the Palestinian people."
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/342578.html

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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 03:06 PM
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1. Hamas never has been a good team player.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:09 PM
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2. to say the least!
Terrorists are outside of the law, and outside of humanity, since their goal is mass murder. I'm not sure how the parapalegic Yassin manages to exert control, but apparently his word is the law of G-d to them.
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:47 PM
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3. Im always surprised
that the self professed Pro Palestinians never actually comment on anything going on in the nascent state of Palestine. Its almost like they are more concerned with Israel and 80% of its population than they are with the Palestinians themselves.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:49 PM
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4. What is there to say?
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 10:49 PM by Darranar
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:44 PM
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7. The silence is still deafening in its meaning!
eom
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 04:15 PM
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15. Okay...
Hamas doesn't like the PA, and doesn't want to participate in their government.

This further shows that Hamas and the PA are hardly on best of terms.

Perhaps we'll get less rants about the terrorist-cuddling PA after some read this article?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:54 AM
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:34 PM
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14. Please don't call people liars
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 01:35 PM by YANG
its not good for board moral.

Here are the only two threads you have started in the last week.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=14997&mesg_id=14997

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=15258


A sampling of the evidence would show you to be Israelocentric on this issue.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:19 AM
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16. If I had my post would have been deleted...
Which is why it's still there....

Considering both of those threads involve Israeli policy towards the Occupied Territories, yr shooting yrself in the foot here, Yang. Yr claim was 'that the self professed Pro Palestinians never actually comment on anything going on in the nascent state of Palestine.' It wasn't a claim that there are people who *gasp* dare to mention Israel in a discussion of the I/P conflict. That'd make everyone here, Israelocentric according to yr logic...

Violet...
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:45 AM
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13. What the hell am I? Chopped liver?
Actually, if you will listen to pro-Palestinians talk with each other on a subject, you'll find that they have a lot to say in agreement and disagreement with each other on this subject. Hell, I'll even say that differences among "pro-Palestinians" are just as many as differences between them and "pro-Israelis".

I give weird advice, don't I? Imagine that. Actually listening to "pro-Palestinians" instead of just talking to or at them.
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:21 PM
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5. Good. Because if they did then the entire cabinet is considered rogue
hamas has no seat at any table except the one at the morgue. If the Palestinian cabinet were to allow hamas terrorists then all Palestinians should create a new Palestinian cabinet.
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:27 PM
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6. Read the article
there will be a Pro Hamas deligate and the majority of seats will be controlled by Arafat.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:12 AM
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9. Arafat
The real question about Arafat is when did he stop being a terrorist. It's an historical fact that he founded the PLO as a paramilitary group while under the protection of the Jordanians. He ws exiled, but continued his activities. He was an arms smuggler before that.

It was also in 1964 that the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) was established, under the sponsorship of the Arab League, bringing together a number of groups all working to free Palestine for the Palestinians. The Arab states favoured a more conciliatory policy than Fatah's, but after their defeat by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War, Fatah emerged from the underground as the most powerful and best organised of the groups making up the PLO, took over that organisation in 1969 when Arafat became the chairman of the PLO executive committee. The PLO was no longer to be something of a puppet organisation of the Arab states, wanting to keep the Palestinians quiet, but an independent nationalist organisation, based in Jordan.

Arafat developed the PLO into a state within the state of Jordan with its own military forces. King Hussein of Jordan, disturbed by its guerrilla attacks on Israel and other violent methods, eventually expelled the PLO from his country. Arafat sought to build a similar organisation in Lebanon, but this time was driven out by an Israeli military invasion. He kept the organization alive, however, by moving its headquarters to Tunis. He was a survivor himself, escaping death in an airplane crash, surviving any assassination attempts by Israeli intelligence agencies, and recovering from a serious stroke.

http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1994/arafat-bio.html

Although he was raised in Egypt (except for a short time with his uncle in Jerusalem, when British soldiers stormed the house and beat-up his uncle's family) he does have connections with Palestine through his parents. His nationality is Egyptian, however. As no Palestinian state existed or yet exists, he chose the mission to create it.

There has not been absolute truth that he himself is funding terorists, just transfering funds to the families of suicide bombers, which some feel is rather a social cause outside of the framework of terror. Others, in the Israeli camp, see that as funding and encouraging further attacks.

He is himself a multi-millionaire, with some 300Million dollars in his control. He has recently been shown to have been in total control of 900million dollars of IMS money that was supposed to be for infastrucure building in the PA. Not all of that money has been accounted for. There are still gaps and questions concerning his administarion of those funds.

Now he wants the total control of the PA cabinet appointments. He wants them to be responsible only to him. This is part of king-making, not democracy.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:16 AM
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10. Any Hamas member...
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:29 AM by Scurrilous
..who steps forward and joins this government is signing his own death warrant. Given that Israel has declared all-out war on Hamas and considers any Hamas 'leader' fair-game for assassination, I don't think volunteering to become a member of this new cabinet would be the smartest move.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:58 AM
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12. How right you are
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 10:58 AM by Gimel
A very good point. They could be targeted. It seems Arafat wants to accomodate the Hamas members in his cabinet so that he sill have a broad-based coalition.?? Pretty unnecessary given his iron-fist control. If they are just Hamas sympathizers, however, they probably wouldn't be subject to assassination.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:54 AM
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11. New link for the lead article
A new link for this article:
Hamas says will not join new Palestinian cabinet

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=342957
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