Hamas says new government won't recognize Israel

[madokie]

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061114/ts_nm/mideast_dc

GAZA (Reuters) - The ruling Islamic militant group Hamas said on Tuesday a planned Palestinian unity government would not recognize Israel or accept a two-state solution to the Middle East conflict.

Hamas's stance could undercut Palestinian efforts to form a unity government acceptable to Israel and its closest ally, the United States, casting doubts on whether an eight-month-old Western economic boycott would be lifted.

Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said the agenda of the proposed unity government between Hamas and President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction "will not recognize Israel and will not include accepting the two-state solution."

"We reject the two-state solution, which is the vision of U.S. President George Bush, because it represents a clear recognition of Israel," Barhoum said. "Our position in this regard remains unchanged. We reject joining in any government that recognizes Israel."

[Mythsaje]

1. Why do ALL of these people have to be such assholes?

Is it a prerequisite or something?

[barb162]

11. Is it a prerequisite or something? It certainly seems so

[acmavm]

2. The non-recognition of Israel is truly an ignorant act by Hamas.

As much as there are problems between the Palestinians and the Jews, the fact that Israel exists and will continue to exist is a reality that they can't avoid, whether they like it or not. I am not at all saying that Israel is not a major part of this problem, but I will say stupidity like this sure as hell doesn't advance the cause of the innocent Palestinian people who just want peace, to raise their kids, to have a life in the area.

Olmert was rattling his sabre yesterday as well. And it's just so plain and simple to see that the clowns who are proposing all this strife and death and heartache are doing it in their own self-interests. Israel because for decades they've been stealing all the best land, all the water, helping themselves to whatever it has been that they wanted.

The leaders of Hamas and other radical Arab factions, because their resentment is so great and because they want revenge, not a peaceful or equitable solution (if that's possible when dealing with the Israeli government) solution for the Palestinian people.

Of course, being a citizen of a country that loves war itself, I suppose it makes it kind of hypocritical to comment. If we're not in a blatantly bloody war (although absolutely justified and righteous) World Wars I and II, we're in wars of our own making like Korea and Viet Nam and Iraq. Then there's our sneaky dirty wars against innocent people like El Salvador and Panama.

[cali]

3. I'll never understand

why long standing members of DU post I/P articles on GD or other forums.

[sandnsea]

4. Current news is ok

And this seems to me to be pretty big current news, regardless of whether the OP has taken sides and I've got no idea on that at all.

[madokie]

6. Taking NO sides here

[KharmaTrain]

5. Another Hecka Job Booooshie...

We reject the two-state solution, which is the vision of U.S. president George Bush say it all.

Had we had remained someone of an honest broker in the region...had we had a Dennis Ross or Richard Holbrooke on the ground...I believe a lot of the strife of the past 6 years could have limited. But since this regime is viewed as so hostile to Arabs and Palestinians, the U.S. role has become a roadblock to any co-existance between the Israelis and the Palestinians...escalating the tensions to all-time highs and setting the stage for further warfare that will do nothing to solve this thorny issue other than keep coffin makers in business.

[msmcghee]

7. As much as I dislike Bush . .

. . at some point don't you think that the Palestinians need to take responsibility for their own actions. Personally, I am quite tired of seeing that everything that the Palestinians do to destroy and reject any possibility of peace - for almost 60 years now - somehow always seems to be somebody else's fault

All the world's problems don't come prepackaged for liberal solutions. Regrettably, some of them, like many wars caused by cultures and individuals who see them as enobling, require a conservative solution. Just like WWI and II.

Yes, it would have been good if Bush had actively worked for peace in the ME. Clinton spent an enormous effort on that (while the pukes were impeaching him) and got pretty damned close. And still, DU is full of those who have a million excuses for why Arafat chose Intifada over peace and no dead babies.

It's time that people here realize that they are part of the problem - their vocal support and apologetics for thugs and cold blooded killers who, time after time, choose Kassams over sharing any part of the ME with Jews - allows those killers the fantasy that the world will eventually turn against Israel.

And so the killing goes on. How sad for the left. How sad for the world.

[barb162]

12. The two state solution was a plan way before Bush came along

Blame the people responsible:Hamas.

[Eugene]

8. AP: Hamas Hints at Compromise on Israel

Hamas Hints at Compromise on Israel

By IBRAHIM BARZAK
The Associated Press
Tuesday, November 14, 2006; 8:36 AM

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip -- Hamas said Tuesday it would not recognize Israel
even after a new national unity government takes power, but suggested that
the emerging coalition would be free to stake out a more moderate position.

Hamas apparently hopes this ambiguity will allow it to preserve its anti-Israel
ideology but open the door to an easing of crippling international sanctions,
imposed to pressure the current, Hamas-led government to moderate. Despite
the sanctions, Hamas has repeatedly rejected international demands to
recognize Israel, renounce violence and respect past peace accords.

-snip-

Under the emerging coalition agreement, foreign policy would handled by Abbas,
who, as head of the Palestine Liberation Organization, is authorized to negotiate
on behalf of the Palestinian people.

It was unclear whether this division of labor would satisfy Western demands.
Officials from the "Quartet" of Mideast mediators _ the U.S., European Union,
Russia and the United Nations _ are scheduled to meet Wednesday in Egypt.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/14/AR2006111400393.html

[pelsar]

9. HINTS???

big fukin deal...we dont need "HINTS"....that is such BS. If the guy wants to live in peace with israel, the formula is very simple, all he has to do is follow what Egypt and Jordan did. They simply said: no more war, and proceeded to guard their own borders.

and thats it!!
the can start with gaza......they might want to to "return the favor" of when israel left.

[barb162]

14. Watch mentioning of that old hudna crap to start up again

which as far as I can tell, means they fire one or so less rocket a day into Israel, etc.
:hi:

[barb162]

13. Oh bull; that game again

"Hamas apparently hopes this ambiguity will allow it to preserve its anti-Israel
ideology but open the door to an easing of crippling international sanctions...."

I think or at least hope the world is on to this talking between the lines by Hamas

[UndertheOcean]

10. I hope Hamas goes down the political drain soon ...

bunch of ....

If you don't even want to recognise your enemy , why negotiate at all ...