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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:43 PM
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Education Minister: Put the Green Line back in textbooks
By Akiva Eldar, Haaretz Correspondent

Education Minister Yuli Tamir issued instructions to reinstate the Green Line in all the new editions of study books featuring maps of Israel.

Tamir said Israel could not demand of its Arab neighbors to mark the June 4, 1967 borders, while the Israeli education system erased them from its textbooks and from children's awareness.

~SNIP~

Her main findings included the disappearance of the Green Line and Arab cities in Israel from the maps in these books, and their presentation of sites and settlements in "Judea and Samaria," rather than in the "West Bank," as an integral part of Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/796919.html



It seems not only Palestinian Schools do this sh&t.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:47 PM
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1. And it seems only Israel changes the borders
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 03:25 AM
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2. Education Minister to return Green Line to textbooks
Yuli Tamir proposes students learn about Israel's disputed borders. 'You can't sketch Israel's borders without bringing in politics' says Tamir

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3336205,00.html

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"Education Minister Yuli Tamir decided that Israeli students should learn about the country's 1967 borders. Tamir ordered the Green Line be included on all maps in all future textbook publications.

The Green Line outlines Israel's borders from the 4th of June, 1967, just before the Six day War broke out.

This decision is politically loaded since the 1967 borders are at the base of the Palestinian and Arab demands for establishing an independent Palestinian state.

In the meantime, Israel has been trying its best to obscure these lines over the years, in hopes that it would be able to include its settlements in the area in any future agreement with the Palestinians."

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"There have been many complaints that the Israeli map which appears in textbooks does not have any borders," said Tamir to Ynet Tuesday morning, "I've looked into the matter and indeed, there is no reference to the Green Line. For example Gaza is still included as part of Israel."
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 05:18 AM
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3. Good.
Glad to see it.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 06:01 AM
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4. Tamir has a very good point...
Israel can't demand that Arab states mark the 1967 borders yet not do so in its own educational system. This isn't the first time an attempt to introduce a bit of balance into school textbooks has been attempted in Israel, btw. I hope the reinstatement isn't reversed...

A textbook case
July 2001

The Israelis have withdrawn from the school curriculum a textbook giving a balanced view of the nation’s history, only a few months after international media accused the Palestinian Authority of using anti-semitic schoolbooks. These did have omissions, but their real error was to refute Israel’s version of Palestinian history.

By Elisa Morena

"There is no alternative to destroying Israel." This quote forms the banner headline of the website of the American lobby Jews for Truth Now (1). Last November and December this group published an insert in several American and Israeli papers featuring the slogan and giving as its source an encyclopaedia Our Country Palestine, mentioned in new Palestinian school textbooks for 11 year-olds (2). The lobby linked the intifada directly to "anti-semitic indoctrination" of Palestinian children from the earliest age. It also asked the United Nations to set up an international commission of enquiry into "racist teaching in Palestinian books, which also call for genocide".

The starting point for the controversy, which started last autumn at the time of the intifada, was a report by an American non-governmental organisation, The Centre for Monitoring the Impact of Peace (CMIP), entitled The New Palestinian Authority School Textbooks for Grades One and Six (3). The study claimed that the textbooks did not once try to teach peace and coexistence with Israel, rather the reverse. The conclusion, translated into numerous languages, was clear: the Palestinian Authority was instilling a culture of hate in its children that explained the fanaticism of the Palestinians.

Since the June 1967 war and the start of Israeli occupation schoolchildren in the West Bank and Gaza Strip have used Jordanian and Egyptian textbooks respectively, with modifications imposed by Israel which sought to eliminate anti-semitic and anti-Zionist references. In 1991, at the time of the Madrid conference, the Palestinians began the groundwork for the new ministries that came into being three years later with the setting up of the Palestinian Authority. Eighty Palestinians, from both the territories and the diaspora, started work on a first, unified Palestinian school curriculum for the West Bank and Gaza.

In 1994 this was one of the main concerns of the new deputy minister for education, Na’im Abul Hommos. "The educational system that we inherited was in a sorry state," he explained: "overcrowded classes, lack of teachers and antiquated textbooks dating from pre-1967, teaching Gaza children, for instance, about the greatness of the Egyptian kingdom and its 20m inhabitants ."

Read more here
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 06:59 AM
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5. Reaction:
World Likud head: Students will learn danger of Green Line

"World Likud Chairman Danny Danon ‘praised’ Education Minister Yuli Tamir's decision to mark the Green Line on maps of Israel in students' textbooks.

"Thanks to Tamir's decision the students will know how dangerous returning the Green Line borders would be to the existence of the State of Israel, and how it would turn us all into hostages in the hands of Palestinian terrorists." said Danon."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3336300,00.html



Settlers reject Tamir's textbooks

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3336338,00.html

Storm follows education minister's decision to add Green Line to Israel's map in student textbooks. Settlement heads announce they will reject textbooks; 'We will continue to educate about the whole Land of Israel,' they say

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"Education Minister Yuli Tamir's initiative to return the Green Line to maps of Israel in students' textbooks is causing a storm.

On Tuesday right wingers accused Tamir of losing her sense of nationalism, and said her proposal is more suited for the "Peace Now" movement than the Israeli education system. Settlements call for the
call for the new textbooks to be rejected.

The Yesha Council called on all schools in the "Zionist education system" not to put these new books into their plan. "The education minister is trying to use educational propaganda to cut out about a fifth of the State of Israel from the map, which is where the tie between Israel and its land was based as a cradle in Jewish history," the council said."

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"One of Tamir's few supporters was Former Education Minister Yossi Sarid. "The students in Israel should know that Israel's eastern and northern borders are not final, and they will be settled one day through negotiations," he said.

Sarid continued to say that "Everything that is true in reality should appear in the textbooks, and this is our reality. After 1967 the border was broken and it's important that the students know this. This is the true border story in the east – it's not over and done with."




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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:09 AM
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6. Yes, of course the nuts object.
But I'm sure that you recognize and support Tamir.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 01:43 PM
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7. Education Committee votes against adding Green Line to maps
Committee rejects Education Minister Tamir's decision to include Green Line in all textbook maps. Tamir says 'marking is important in light of Green Line's historical, judicial significance'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3347058,00.html

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"The Knesset's Education Committee rejected Monday Education Minister Yuli Tamir's decision to include the Green Line on maps in all future textbook publications.

The committee adopted Knesset Members Zevulun Orlev and Zeev Elkin's decision proposal to adopt the government's decisions from 1967, according to which the country's borders will not be marked according to the ceasefire lines (the Green Line).

The committee concluded that "the textbooks in the education system include satisfactory material, which properly instructs on the history of the country and State's borders, including the ceasefire lines."

The committee called on Tamir to cancel her decision regarding the Green Line. MK Orlev told Ynet, "The education minister is trying to put the Green Line back on the agenda, and etch it in the students' consciousness out of a Peace Now political perspective."

"I want to believe that the education minister will not fail the citizenship test – every minister pledges to be loyal to the State of Israel and abide by the Knesset's decisions. If the education minister fails to follow the Education Committee's decision, she should be dismissed," he added."

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:45 AM
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:47 AM
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9. are you serious?
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 02:37 AM
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10. sure... why not? everyone else seems to be these days
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 03:12 AM by idontwantaname
i mean if youre in it for israel its not enough to just pick and choose the UN resolutions you want... you have to ignore them completely.

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3347058,00.html

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"The Knesset's Education Committee rejected Monday Education Minister Yuli Tamir's decision to include the Green Line on maps in all future textbook publications.

The committee adopted Knesset Members Zevulun Orlev and Zeev Elkin's decision proposal to adopt the government's decisions from 1967, according to which the country's borders will not be marked according to the ceasefire lines (the Green Line).

The committee concluded that "the textbooks in the education system include satisfactory material, which properly instructs on the history of the country and State's borders, including the ceasefire lines."

The committee called on Tamir to cancel her decision regarding the Green Line. MK Orlev told Ynet, "The education minister is trying to put the Green Line back on the agenda, and etch it in the students' consciousness out of a Peace Now political perspective."

"I want to believe that the education minister will not fail the citizenship test – every minister pledges to be loyal to the State of Israel and abide by the Knesset's decisions. If the education minister fails to follow the Education Committee's decision, she should be dismissed," he added."


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Tamir stated that that one of the education system's objectives is to deal with issues that are on the State's agenda, one of them being the question of the country's borders.

"The students should get to know the borders and the discussion surrounding them," Tamir said, "The Israeli student should know that there is a historical and judicial significance to the Green Line issue."

"This term is widely used in political discourse in Israel and abroad, for instance in the context of the separation fence. A student who does not know what the Green Line is, will not be able to understand the context," she added.


Knesset Member Zevulun Orlev said in response that "according to the government's decision the Green Line is dead, and there's no point dealing with this."


Tamir responded by saying, "The Green Line has a judicial status, even if you don't like it. Unless you wish to tell me that the status of the Golan Heights and Nablus is equal."

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