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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:37 PM Original message |
Carter's about-face betrays Jews, Christians |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. sadly this man sees israel with blinders on and it distorts his reality. |
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DianeG5385 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Carter has done more for Israel than any detractor of his |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. "Israel needs to give the land back." |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. President Carter is hardly suggesting anything of the sort |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Is that what Diane was referring to? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Hamas rejected the Geneva Initiative. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. at an earlier time Hamas had indicated that they would accept |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. So did Israel... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Israel accepted the Clinton parameters |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. So far you've come up with no genuine offers from Israel... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. The '47 partition plan was a genuine offer |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I will grant that 47/48 might have been a strategic error |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
51. The University Of Michigan, Sir, Would Seem To Be Doing Its Students Some Dis-Service |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 04:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I think if you read the entirety of that lesson plan, Mr. Magistrate |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It's a lesson plan for high school students |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Zionism as a modern political movement did develop in the late 1800's |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. this section of the lesson plan does not provide enough detail |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. Do you speak Arabic? |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. it is quite clear from the European Union notes that negotiations |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Am I supposed to believe that because of past discrimination against |
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Lena inRI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Bravo, T Wolf. . . |
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Spinoza (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Excuse me? |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. Bull Crap. |
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DianeG5385 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I second that emotion |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Is that sort of like... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. In what way? |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I am responding to the person I replied to |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
13. A quote by Dr. Konner |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. I am curious Sir, why you chose that quote |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. See 35, answered in the wrong place |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. It struck me as appropriate |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. When you say it is relevant to Dr. Konner, |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Dr Konner is an ethnologist |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It just adds more questions for me |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Religion is pretty hard to define |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
14. The article does not speak for all Jewish-Americans |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
16. I thought I'd offer here some sage advice for Carter . . |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. the PLO did recognize Israel as an official position in 1988 |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That has nothing to do with my post referencing . . |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. and Israel continued settlement expansion, bull-dozing houses, confiscating |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. And neither does this. n/t |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
50. Question for msmcgmee - |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. My purpose in offering the quotes from Carter . . |
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furman (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
17. This article is right on the money |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. So any US-Jew who agrees with Carter isn't part of the "Jewish Community"? |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I don't recall reading in the article or |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Try reading my post again... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Deleted message |
everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 10:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Take two: |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Try reading the article. This is what the author said... |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Except of course.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Well, thanks for admitting yr wrong... |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The only one who is having difficulty grasping anything in this |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I'll explain in great detail why I asked furman my question... |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The fact that you are unable to see it is a strawman.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Go back and read my post again and again till you get it... |
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furman (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 06:52 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. I'm furman, and I'll answer your question |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 06:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. So you weren't actually saying the Jewish community was hostile to Carter... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Deleted message |
furman (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
18. Related article: Emory professor urges center to cut ties with Carter |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. "So any US-Jew who agrees with Carter isn't part of the 'Jewish Community'?" |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
62. Is the timeline about Middle East history |
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