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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:43 PM
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Israel's dominance may be going into slow reversal

By most measures, it would seem the Israelis are winning the Palestinian-Israeli war. They control and colonize Arab lands, enjoy military superiority and total American support, and unilaterally define most diplomatic parameters of the conflict. Yet this may be a mistaken assessment: The Palestinians and Arabs are perhaps starting to win some battles, while Israel is losing some of its dominance. Seven events in the past five months seem to lend credence to this view.

The first was Hizbullah's ability to fight Israel for 34 days this summer, and on the 34th day to keep firing hundreds of rockets into Israeli territory. Morality and political consequences aside, this reflected a truly historic combination of political will, technical military proficiency, and a capacity to remain shielded from Israeli, Western and Arab spies and infiltrators. No Arab party had ever crossed this threshold in the century-long conflict with Zionism and Israel.

The second event was Israel's (and Washington's) having to accept the August cease-fire resolution at the United Nations, after the United States had given Israel weeks of extra warfare to hit Hizbullah. A determined Arab group forced Israel and the US to accept a political resolution instead of military victory, and the cease-fire resolution included measures that Israel had previously always rejected - addressing the occupied Shebaa Farms area in the context of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, rather than as occupied Syrian land, and specifying the return or exchange of Israeli and Lebanese prisoners.

Israel quietly dropped its previous position that the two Israeli soldiers snatched by Hizbullah on July 12 had to be returned unconditionally. The stationing of over 20,000 Lebanese and international troops in Southern Lebanon has long been an Israeli demand, but also came at a price: limiting Israel's scope of action in Lebanon and its overflights.


http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=78096
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:45 PM
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1. I don't believe that's really a bad thing.
Israel should have the right to exist, but not the right to bully its neighbors. Lots of times, Israel seems to play the part of antagonist just as much as any other nation over there.
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Selah Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:51 PM
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2. Whoa! there fella
Joel Rosenburg's book the "epicenter" offers a different view. Some of the facts including: newly discovered oil and gas reserves and Prophecy from Ezekiel 38 and 39 (war of gog and maygog) combined with political and other economic events show Israel triumphant. Check it out!
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:04 PM
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3. whoa!
we usually dont rely on myths here
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Selah Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:59 PM
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4. Call it what you like!
The events depicted in the book are real - not myths, but rather facts!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 10:45 AM
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7. Joel Rosenberg...from the folks who brought you the Left Behind series:
http://www.leftbehind.com/channelbooks.asp?channelID=218

About the Author: Joel C. Rosenberg

From Joel C. Rosenberg, the New York Times best-selling author of The Last Jihad and The Last Days—and Tyndale House, publishers of the phenomenal best-selling Left Behind series—comes a heart-pounding new international thriller of a world on the brink of the Apocalypse. Joel is a writer and communications strategist who has worked for some of the world's most influential and provocative leaders, including Steve Forbes, Rush Limbaugh, and former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. A front-page Sunday New York Times profile called him a "force in the capital." A former political columnist for World magazine, he has been interviewed on over 300 radio and TV programs, including ABC's Nightline, CNN Headline News, Fox News Channel, MSNBC, The Rush Limbaugh Show, The Sean Hannity Show, and The 700 Club. He and his wife, Lynn, reside near Washington D.C. with their four sons.

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Selah Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:09 AM
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8. We should get ready then.
One should not discount dozens of predictions made by the author that have come to pass as a real events in the last several years (including 9-11)simply because he is conservative christian. By his own admission he is not a prophet or anything other than one man using politics, economics and scripture (primarily EZK. 38 & 39) as a guide.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:35 PM
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5. Maybe this poll sheds some light on the subject
Nearly 70 percent of respondents to a survey conducted by a
leading Christian publication believe in disinvestment from
companies whose products are used by the Israeli government in
the territories.

The poll of more than 2,800 people, conducted on The Tablet
website, pointed to the widespread existence of anti-Israel
sentiment among respondents and a suspicion of the Jewish
State's actions.



http://www.totallyjewish.com/news/national/?content_id=5208
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Selah Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 10:28 AM
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6. Sure if you believe the Enquirer
Respondents to the survey included Christians from several denominations, Muslims and atheists, while 10 percent were Jewish.
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