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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:13 PM
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Mideast quartet blasts Palestinian attacks, Israeli settlements
The four powers behind the Middle East road map peace plan -- the United States, United Nations,
European Union and Russia -- on Friday condemned Palestinian attacks and said Israeli settlements must
stop.

"Each party must do more to address, immediately and simultaneously, the core concerns of the other as
decsribed in the road map," UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said, reading a joint statement.

The four parties met here on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in a bid to get the faltering "road
map," which calls for a Palestinian state by 2005, back on track.

EU
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 06:30 PM
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1. 'Simultaneously' is the magic word
Because they don't trust each other, the disarming of Hamas and the dismantling of the settlements must happen simultaneously, supervised by outside forces.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 06:40 PM
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2. ...."as described in the Roadmap"
That negates your point.
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 06:58 PM
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4. It's my opinion that
unless it's done simultaneously it's not going to happen. I think Hamas would rather die fighting.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:14 PM
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6. Oh sure
That is probably accurate. :)

I'm just pointing out that there is no "magic word" in this press release. It's all total bullshit, as per usual.
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:23 PM
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8. Yes, it's only words
A lot of pretending and spinning going on. The Roadmap is not faltering, it's dead, and Washington is busy with Iraq.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:34 PM
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11. The Roadmap was DOA
As was obvious 5 seconds after publication, IMO.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 06:55 PM
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3. Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk...
Where's the action?
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:01 PM
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5. You can say that again.
All talk and no action. Things will only start to happen when Washington forces the issue. Why is Washington wishy-washy?
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:18 PM
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7. There is plenty of action
Voting against the UN general assembly Arafat resolution = ACTION
Vetoing the same UN/SC resolution = ACTION
Continuing shipments of military weapons to Israel = ACTION
Quietly informing Israel the wall is fine as long as they just defer most of it until they get Iraq under control = ACTION
Ignoring the plans to annex Abu Dis = ACTION
Not investigating Rachel Corrie's death in the House = ACTION

etc etc.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:26 PM
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9. True...
I meant action to actually bring about a peaceful settlement in the Middle East.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:35 PM
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12. Well, they're bringing about settlement in the Middle East
Does that count? ;-)

"GET YER FREE HOUSES IN THE JORDAN VALLEY! ROLL RIGHT UP, 10,000 NIS APIECE!"
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:37 PM
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13. LOL...
true enough.
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 07:33 PM
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10. In Jerusalem, Words Mean Nothing -- and Everything...
Edited on Sun Sep-28-03 08:25 PM by cantwealljustgetalon
...

Arabs often die alongside Jews when terror strikes. It is one of the facts that is paradoxically too insignificant and too laden with meaning to merit mention in most of the articles published here, as if referring to the coexistence it implies has become too exasperating for words.

The announcement of Karam's death in El Kuds, the east Jerusalem daily, was a further example of obfuscation. The Palestinian press does not speak of acts of Palestinian terrorism, even when the terrorism hits Palestinians. The obituary said Karam, 27, had been "called by God" as a result of "an accident at his place of work," as though a tray had fallen on his head. The euphemism was especially rankling because of a new bit of slang that has taken hold here during the intifada. The term "work accident" has come to mean the premature detonation of a suicide belt as the terrorist prepares an attack, a workaday snafu for suicide brigades -- whereas Karam, who worked closely with Jews, died as a symbol of something we have lost the ability even to hope for: Jews and Arabs living together in peace.

...

For all of us here, reality at times is too staggering for words, and Father Dades, who is a young man with an old man's voice, eventually gave up -- the service didn't last more than 15 minutes -- sprinkled some holy water on Karam's coffin, dispersed incense from a large silver burner, and finally, with a sigh, said, "Maskin, Allah yirachamo, amen" -- Poor thing, may God have mercy on him, amen.
Karam's mother, Sohaila, knew just what to say. She threw herself upon the coffin crying, "Son, take me with you."

...

Seeing my notepad, the women gathered around, speaking in a jumble of Hebrew and Arabic. When they talked about "Arabs" they meant the Muslim majority they feel they can no longer abide. The Palestinian Christians aspire to remain a minority in the Jewish state. One woman, a longtime employee of the Israel Museum, made her identification with Israel evident as she showed me a picture of her daughter, which she pulled out of her telltale, egg-shell blue Israeli national ID card.

One woman said: "Sharon, he's old by now. Doesn't he have a brain? He knows what he has to do -- burn the Arabs. Burn them already."
Another said, "The Christians want peace. You tell that to the Arabs."

...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8027-2003Sep26.html
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