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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:13 PM
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Rice condemns Carter's Hamas plans
Condoleezza Rice has criticised reported plans by former US president Jimmy Carter to meet a senior Hamas leader in Syria next week.

"I find it hard to understand what is to be gained by having discussions with Hamas about peace when Hamas is in fact the impediment to peace," the US secretary of state said in Washington on Friday.

Carter, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002, could meet Khalid Meshaal, the exiled leader of Hamas, during a trip to the Middle East that begins on Sunday.

Hamas has said the meeting will take place but Carter is yet to confirm it.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BBE18D00-B8B4-4A87-8FA1-6494A9EC2676.htm
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:15 PM
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1. Well Condi, you won't do anything so Jimmy will. Embarrassing isn't it?
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:31 PM
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6. Carter can talk to Hamas or do whatever the hell he wants
He is a private citizen, not a head of state, and his talking,book writing, or moralizing, are not going to change policy.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:16 PM
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2. Rice Declares War On Hamas
:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:hi:

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:27 PM
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3. The powers that be dont WANT peace in the Middle East
Its obvious why she is criticizing Carter.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:55 PM
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9. ding, correct answer ...
The powers that be dont WANT peace in the Middle East
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:31 PM
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4. Ms. Rice has been shuttling back and forth
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 06:44 PM by BunkerHill24
in the ME on a peace mission for Seven years, yet NOTHING is achieved. Maybe Ms. Rice should let someone else tried for a change.


on edit: clarification

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:00 PM
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5.  "Condoleezza Rice's Contribution To The Hebrew Language"
"The long buildup to Annapolis, together with Ms. Rice’s many trips to the region, have given birth to a new verb in Israeli government circles: “lecondel,” meaning, to come and go for meetings that produce few results. The word is based on Ms. Rice’s first name."

UPDATE: "OK, taking my own suggestion, how about these for verbs:

Lehitolmer, to have delusions of invincibility.


Lecarter: to go around claiming to help people, but harming them in the process.



Lehitabbeis: to be constantly supported yet remain perpetually weak."



http://daledamos.blogspot.com/2007/11/condoleezza-rices-contribution-to.html











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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:43 AM
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7. It's not up to the current administration what an ex-President can or can't do...
I don't think that his talking to Meshal (if indeed he does) would do much good. IIRC a Russian leader tried it a year or two ago without achieving anything; and I doubt that Carter, who is not a government representative, could achieve anything either.

But it's not up to Condi.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:01 PM
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8. She's a big help just like int the Summer War of 06
Remember as the bombs fell on Lebanon she kept stalling when it came to a ceasefire? It's the same thing here.

Back then she made all these trips all over the place and held "peace conferences" which resulted in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries on the Lebanese people.

CNN:

"In an unannounced visit, she stopped first in Lebanon's capital, where she met with Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and Nabih Berri, Lebanon's parliament speaker, who has close ties with Hezbollah and Syria.

'I am obviously here because we are deeply concerned about the Lebanese people and what they are enduring,' Rice said in Beirut. 'We are talking about the humanitarian situation, and we are also talking about a durable way to end the violence.'"

uh huh . . .

"After the closed-door meeting, a source in Berri's office told CNN that Berri considered Rice's comments 'not encouraging' because of her insistence on a simultaneous implementation of conditions.

By that, the source said, Berri meant Rice had wanted any cease-fire agreements, deployment of international troops, disarming of Hezbollah militia, return of displaced Lebanese and plans for reconstruction to occur at the same time. . .

Rice called Hezbollah the source of the problem in Lebanon and said a cease-fire 'will be a false promise if it returns us to the status quo.' She did not plan to meet with Hezbollah or with Syrian leaders during her trip."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/24/mideast.diplomacy/index.html

Meanwhile the killing went on and on. Of course, she wouldn't want to talk to the actual parties involved in the conflict, besides the Israelis that is. Just give them a few more days to get it right Condi, that's all they need and this Hezbollah problem will be all over.
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