Hanegbi: In light of recent violence IDF must retake Gaza

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Chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Tzachi Hanegbi, said Thursday that in light of recent escalation of violence in the Gaza Strip, the Israel Defense Forces must reoccupy the territory.

In an interview with Army Radio, Hanegbi said that he meant to establish a strategic goal of toppling the Islamic rulers of the Gaza Strip ? Hamas. In order to achieve this goal, he said, "you must go into the territory and hold on to it for a long time."

Hanegbi confessed that the decision to retake the Strip comes with a "complicated price tag, and has implications for our soldiers' lives as well as in the international arena." Earlier Thursday, elite Israel Defense Forces soldiers killed one Palestinian militant and wounded another near the Kerem Shalom Gaza-Israel border crossing, foiling an attempted infiltration and attack.

A third gunman managed to escape the IDF special forces unharmed.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975947.html

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1. Suppose a Hamas official declares a need to occupy all of Israel

We'd hear crying and moaning about what an evil, atrocious organization they are. How they will never stop until they rid the ME of Jews. How they cannot be dealt with honestly and can never be trusted. How we shouldn't even sit to talk with them since their hatred and racism is so contemptible.

But when an Israeli official declares that an occupation of Gaza is necessary?

Not a word is said.

The hypocrisy and double standards are really something else when it comes to Israel and the native Palestinians. And yes, I am aware hypocrisy is everywhere so I'll save someone the trouble of making that comment. What amazes me when it comes to this conflict, however, is how few actually see the hypocrisy (or dare to acknowledge it).

[msmcghee]

2. We don't need to suppose that . .

. . " a Hamas official declares a need to occupy all of Israel".

They do that all the time. Here's a video of one doing it nine days ago.


Title of Video: Palestinian Authority Representative in Lebanon Abbas Zaki Supports Anti-Israeli Attacks and States: We Act According to the Phased Plan. Once We Get Jerusalem, We Will Move On to Drive Israelis Out of All of Palestine

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1738.htm


Here's another about the same time frame.

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1739.htm

I don't think anyone even mentioned these here. I thought of posting the first one but then figured, "what's the use"? Besides we can't start threads with video clip links - I think those are the rules.

So, now back to your hypocrisy theory . . you were saying . .

Oh yeah, there is one major difference between the op example and these from MEMRI. When Hamas says it they mean that Israel is their land forever and the Jews must be eliminated from there - just as it says in their Charter. When Israel says it - it means a way to stop attacks on Israeli citizens. That's exactly what the Israeli guy in the OP stated. He said nothing about keeping Gaza or kicking out any Palestinians.

You are right about the hypocrisy - you just got the hypocrites mixed up.

[subsuelo]

3. nothing to do with the point, but .... thanks I guess n/t

[msmcghee]

5. I can't imagine a comment more on-point than the one I just posted. n/t

[Dick Dastardly]

8. No shit, that was a rare perfect on point

That was the first thing I thought when I read his comment. I bet it would be the top pick in a 90% range on Family Feud

[subsuelo]

9. It has nothing to do with the point being made though

We all are aware of Hamas' statements regarding taking the land back from Israel.

It's not the point.

The point is - when an Israeli official declares that occupying Gaza is necessary, not a word is said. But when a Hamas official says something about taking over Israel, then everyone gets all up in arms and upset and crying about it.

That is the hypocrisy, and since you and mcghee have no comment regarding that point, can I assume you are both in agreement on it?

[LeftishBrit]

6. Hamas officials do declare a need to occupy all Israel.

And yes, people do moan about what an atrocious organization it is (which it is) and say all the other things you mention.

'The hypocrisy and double standards are really something else when it comes to Israel and the native Palestinians.'

Hypocrisy and double standards by whom? Do you mean the Americans, the Israelis, or the rest of the world? I would say that both Israelis and Palestinians get lots of criticism by the world at large!

[subsuelo]

10. surely you don't mean to say there is a lack of hypocrisy

regarding Israel and the native Palestinians?

[LeftishBrit]

11. I think there is hypocrisy in different directions in different places...

in one direction in America especially on the Right; in the other direction in Arab countries and therefore often the UN.

[LeftishBrit]

4. Hanegbi...

is currently under indictment for making illegal political appointments to the civil service when he was Environment Minister. That on its own probably reduces his influence!

A foolish and immoral idea all round. I doubt that this idea will get very far; just from the perspective of the Israelis, it would undoubtedly lead to far more violence and casualties for them than the present situation.

[bemildred]

7. Yes it is a foolish idea.

Not to mention that it looks bad after going to all that trouble to withdraw from Gaza to "have to take it back". And you are right, I don't expect it will get far, at least with the current government.