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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 01:00 AM Original message |
‘Radical pragmatism’ and the Jordanian option |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. As with some other simplistic 'single-state' solutions, there seem to be two problems with this one; |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Wasn't this idea discarded in the 80s?nt |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I think the idea was discarded in 1970. nt |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Of course it was. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It's a bit hard to be all outraged about something that never happened... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Black September? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. As a major crime of ethnic cleansing... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Didn't that have something to do with a few planes being hijacked? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I have been having a lot of trouble finding out how many... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. And had Israel perpetrated that act |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Sure there was. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. You play with words. |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. What legal status did they have? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. "Stateless" does not equal "no legal status". |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Who said they had no legal status? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Post #10: |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Like I said, you are playing with words. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. The fellow quoted in Post #10 largely pulls his argument out of his ass too. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. How does a word have "no legal status" anyway? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. They're allowed to call themselves what they want... |
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notfullofit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Let's face it, |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Well is it the word or the people that have no "legal status"? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. "Jordan" is not, BTW, something you are a "member" of. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The problem is that if you fail to treat the meaning and usage of words |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The use of phrases like "radical pragmatism" is a good indicator of the problem. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I agree on that one... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Ceding a claim of sovereignty is NOT expelling 1.5 million from Jordan... |
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