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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:56 PM
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All Parties Side with Israel in Israeli/Palestinian Conflict...Video
Flemington, NJ, December 30, 2008 – A new national study conducted among 309 self-declared Democrats, Republicans and Independents asked participants to view a video clip which outlined the Israeli/Palestinian conflict that has escalated in the past week. The video clip displayed both opposing sides’ perspective on the situation and each of their justifications for the attacks. The study revealed that after watching the video, all political parties significantly increased their support for Israel while holding Palestine mostly responsible for the ongoing attacks.

The study was conducted by HCD Research on December 29 to obtain Americans’ perceptions of the recent situation in Israel and Palestine involving the attacks on one another’s countries.

Before viewing the video clip of the two opposing sides, Americans, especially Democrats, were split on who should be held mostly responsible for the recent attacks in Israel and Palestine. Before watching the video, 12% blamed Israel and 33% blamed Palestine. After watching the video, 11% blamed Israel, over half (53%) blamed Palestine; an increase of 20% of those siding with Israel.

When asked if the U.S. should intervene in this situation, the majority (64%) said no while only 13% said yes (24% weren’t sure). The small percentage who responded yes thought that if the US were to intervene, it should be politically and economically rather than militarily.

http://www.mediacurves.com/Politics/J7216-IsraelPalestine/
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:01 PM
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1. This one is pretty interesting also
Americans' Perceptions Differ on Man With and Without Headwear

Flemington, NJ, May 27, 2008 -- A new national study of more than 948 Americans revealed that a man wearing a kufi, headwear typically worn by Muslim men, is viewed significantly different than the same man wearing a Jewish yarmulke and no headwear.

The study was conducted by HCD Research, using its mediacurves.com web site during May 21-23, to determine whether Americans possess different views of a man based on whether he wears a kufi, a yarmulke or no headwear.

http://www.mediacurves.com/Culture/J6844-HatStudy/
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:37 PM
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10. Interesting to see the stereotypes that people have!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:01 PM
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2. Both sides my ass.
That video says NOTHING about the conditions the people of Gaza have been living in - it *only* points out Hamas firing rockets. Not a single mention of why. That is crap.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:09 PM
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3. Now that is some serious manipulation.
This is as credible a study as if AIPAC put together a video and mailed it out to American high-school students with who had little knowledge of the conflict.

"The video clip displayed both opposing sides’ perspective on the situation and each of their justifications for the attacks."

There was NOTHING about prior history than of the Qassam launches in late December, and the sole explanation was from Livni. There was no "perspective" on why Hamas launched these rockets, there was only Livin's explanation of why Israel decided to act. The worst was when they paraded a Palestinian out to try to talk about the situation on the ground. Trading in hyperbole- and broken English- you can see the "sympathy meter" going way down by each second his piece lasted.

Not a word of the humanitarian crisis, only the "Hamas infrastructure was being targeted," yet they showed pictures of children being rushed to hospitals. I suppose we are to infer that those children were inside "Hamas infrastructures" and not their homes?

Serious manipulation.
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:17 PM
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5. Media curves is attempting to measure perceptions
The point being that the Palestinians could benefit from better spokespersons, especially since many Americans badly stereotype Muslims.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:19 PM
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6. So they chose a spokesmen that was exactly how Americans generalize Muslims to be?
That is an incredibly asinine thing to do, which is partly why this study isn't objective and unbiased.

Perceptions also help when you "control the message," as Israel has done well in this conflict, and as Media Curves has helped them to do with this supposed study.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:16 AM
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17. its a good thing they didnt explain why they're shooting kassams.....
there was no "perspective" on why Hamas launched these rockets

i didnt see the video, but i suspect if someone did explain why they try to kill and terrorize israelis daily, the explanation might make them even worse off...

i mean the usual excuse of "were defending ourselves, buy trying to kill israeli civilians daily" might just be a "turn off" to most western democratic oriented people....
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:32 AM
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18. Lets see
If someone killed President Obama (God forbid) and you had the means to launch rockets at their house, would you?

If someone kept you in a cage, starving, and made you live on handouts the rest of your life, would you lash out at them?

If they stole your land and then hired you for cheap labor to build them a new home on your old property, would you harbor resentment?
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:10 AM
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19. and the answer is....
try to kill civilians everyday.....

good thing your answers werent on the video...its probably safe to assume that the viewers of the video have a bit more knowledge of the situation and would at best, roll their eyes" at such a simplistic view point......
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:47 PM
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22. Yes, it is a good thing we don't humanize Palestinians
That way of thinking is part of the problem, not the solution.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:39 PM
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11. What a disgusting post! Israel certainly doesn't run the US!
(In fact, the last Israeli government has been pretty ineffective at even running Israel but that's another matter!)
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:41 PM
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12. Israel runs the US? Do DUers really believe this?
Disturbing.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:17 PM
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13. Clearly many do
the reference comes up often enough.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 09:00 PM
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14. I don't think most do
But headlines like these aren't helping those more susceptible to propaganda to discern fact from fiction:

Olmert says he talked Bush out of cease-fire vote
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-gaza-un13-2009jan13,0,6331793.story

Rice shame-faced by Bush over UN Gaza vote: Olmert
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090112/pl_afp/mideastconflictgazaolmertusrice_newsmlmmd
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:43 AM
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15. The more foreign leaders talking Bush out of things the better
Although, now that is no longer necessary.

Didn't Blair talk Bush out of bombing Al-Jazeera HQ in Qatar?
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:08 AM
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16. I thought that report was a hoax?
I did laugh at the reports that came out saying Bush told Olmert no to bombing Iran's nuclear facilities a year or so ago. I don't know which is less believable, the fact that Olmert would ask to bomb Iranian reactors or that Bush would council him against a preemptive strike :rofl:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:38 AM
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20. Other things DUers really believe?
Palestinians have a culture of death, Islam's a cult and not a religion, Arabs aren't really human the way civiised people are, the list goes on and on... The thing is that a few DUers believe a multitude of things that are a mixture of bigotry and ignorance, but most of us apart from a few trollish sorts who indulge in the sort of stuff about Islam and Arabs that I mentioned above, know full well that DUers don't really believe that and it's unfair to paint the bulk of DUers with the same brush just because a few come out with silly statements...
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:09 PM
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23. wow-I didn't know that
did they tell you that in your junior Nazi classes?

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:28 PM
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7. Racism is the underlying reason
First speaker was a white European looking woman giving the Israeli side and the opposing side was a darker skinned male who spook too fast. The video should have had Queen Noor opposing the Israeli speaker. I'd like to see polls taken after Queen Noor explains the Palestinian side.
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:34 PM
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8. That would be interesting
and probably a better comparison for measuring perceptions.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 04:36 PM
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9. Not a terribly good study IMO
They should have compared several videos, not just investigated the effects of one.

It's noticeable that those who changed to support Israel were people who had previously blamed both sides. Now, there are quite a number of people who have a strong interest in the Middle East conflict, and follow it closely, and have come to a firm conclusion that both sides are to blame. (Me, for instance!) But I would guess that some of the people who said 'both sides' were people who had not followed the conflict closely and therefore had no strong commitment. They would be more likely to be influenced by any new message that they received. And as others have said, the pro-Israel side was expressed more clearly in this particular video.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:04 AM
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21. I hope no one actually paid money for this.
lol
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