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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:57 PM
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The Nightmare of Netanyahu Returns
Published on Friday, February 6, 2009 by The Independent/UK

The Nightmare of Netanyahu Returns

This is the man calling for the re-occupation of Gaza to 'liquidate' its elected government

by Johann Hari


Israel is about to make a misjudgement as disastrous - and deadly - as the attack on Gaza. In a few days, it looks as if it could elect Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister once again.

This is a man calling for the violent re-occupation of Gaza to "liquidate" its elected government. This is a man who says he will "naturally grow" the West Bank settlements. This is a man who says he will "never" negotiate over Jerusalem, or the Golan Heights, or control of the West Bank water supply.

This is a man who says establishing a Palestinian state would leave Israel with, "an existential threat and a public relations nightmare reminiscent of 1938 Czechoslovakia". This is a man who Yitzhak Rabin's widow said helped create a climate of hate that led to his murder.

<snip>

Over the past few months, I keep returning to an extraordinary essay written by the great Israel novelist Amos Oz in 1982. The Likud Prime Minister Menachem Begin had compared the Palestinian leadership to Adolf Hitler, so Oz wrote: "You display an urge to resurrect Hitler from the dead so you may kill him over and over again each day... Like many Jews, I feel sorry I didn't kill Hitler with my bare hands. But there is not, and there never will be, any healing for the open wound. Tens of thousands of dead Arabs will not heal that wound. Because, Mr Begin, Adolf Hitler is dead. He is not hiding in Nabatiyah, in Sidon, or in Beirut. He is dead and burned to ashes."

Israeli society consists, Oz says, of "a bunch of half-hysterical refugees and survivors". The 2,000-year trauma of the blood libel, the Inquisition, the pogroms, Auschwitz and Chelmno and the Gulag Archipelago, have produced a distorted vision, where every shriek of pain directed at Israel can sound like the rumble beginning in the massed crowds at Nuremberg.

This means that Israel is missing opportunities for peace. Even much of Hamas - an Islamist party I passionately oppose - is amenable to a long ceasefire along the 1967 borders. That isn't my opinion; it is the view of Yuval Diskin, the current head of the Israeli security service Shin Bet. He told the Israeli Cabinet before the bombing of Gaza that Hamas would restore the ceasefire if Israel would only end the blockade of the Strip and declare a ceasefire on the West Bank. Instead, they bombed, and the offer died.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/02/06-8
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:02 PM
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1. Citizens are supposed to rally around their government when there is a war
(at least that's what the wingers told us for years)

so...why aren't the Israeli people supporting their government now?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:04 PM
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2. Kick.
Though I think this overestimates Nuttyahoo somewhat. He's not that clever. But he is a dangerous loser nonetheless.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:13 PM
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3. I've read his books. Danger is his middle name,
at least to the civilized world.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:17 PM
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4. Clearly. Only a fool would trifle with him.
We really need some sort of dick-waving smiley, don't we?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:17 PM
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8. too true.
sigh.

I've been there, traveled around, and was struck by how much more easy it was to discuss the rights of palestinians in israel than it is here. and how many palestinians truly worry about how their crazies kill women and children in Israel. perhaps a case where the pols make everything worse? with religion on top of it all?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:29 PM
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5. He is tanking in the polls and is going to lose
There will be no return of Netanyahu.
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:25 PM
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6. Do you know how the right-left split is trending? nt
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 07:29 PM by Mosby
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:32 PM
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7. Here's the most recent poll info I've seen
Likud 25
Kadima 23
Beiteinu 19
Labor 16
Shas 10
Arab Parties 9
UTJ 6
Meretz 5
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:17 PM
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9. thank you!
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:49 PM
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10. Where at?
Would like to know the source & margin of error.

L-
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:00 AM
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11. Here's a link to the article with the details about the poll from Ynet
Source and margin of error from the article:

The race for the premiership seems closer than ever according to a poll conducted by Yedioth Ahronoth in conjunction with Dr. Mina Zemach and the Dahaf Polling Institute.

<snip>

The survey, held on Wednesday and Thursday spanned 1,000 people and a segmentation of the undecided votes as well as a sampling error of 2.6%.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3667688,00.html
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