New CBS News Communications Exec Called Obama "Incredibly Dangerous" For Israel

[Scurrilous]

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"Five years after that whole mess over forged documents about then-President Bush's service in the National Guard, CBS News sure seems to be trying awfully hard to convince the GOP that they aren't a Dem outlet.

Here's a very interesting piece of information about Jeff Ballabon, the Republican lobbyist and political strategist who was just hired by CBS News to be the new CBS News senior vice president for communications. During the 2008 election, Ballabon wasn't shy about courting Jewish voters and telling them just how dangerous Barack Obama is when it comes to Israel.

Here's what he told the Orthodox paper Hamodia:

Obama is incredibly dangerous. Not because he is evil, but because he is naive. Agreeing to meet -- without any pre-conditions -- with the terror-supporting president of Iran shows his naivete. And even his Jewish advisors want to pressure Israel to divide Yerushalayim and to make sacrifices of defensive positions against the will of the military and security experts in Israel. They want desperately to appease the UN, the Europeans, the Arabs.

On the bright side, Ballabon is denying an allegation that he called Democrats evil."

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[annabanana]

1. They HAVE started to lean further to the right, haven't they?

They will end up like Faux... laughed out of the market place of ideas...

[bemildred]

2. What a maroon. nt

[bemildred]

3. I mean, think about it.

The first black President of the USA, beats out the Clintons, raises the largest amount of money in US political history, wins the largest mandate in recent memory, and this tool calls him naive. I'll tell you who is naive here ...

[Warpy]

4. I turned off network news for the last time 5 years ago

because I was sick of having them lie to me by omission. Dan Rather was the only bright spot and then only for the last 5 minutes of the newscast when a scrap of truth could slip through now and then.

The amazing thing was how little I missed it. I guess it had just been a habit for a long time: cook some supper, flip on the set, sit down to eat with the news in the background.

I got more current events from Simpson's reruns that were on at the same time.

[Chulanowa]

5. Does anyone else notice....

The the more pro-Israel a person is, the more they endorse policies and actions that result in dead Jews?

I'm starting to think that "pro-Israel" is actually just "pro war" with a heaping spoonful of antisemitism for flavor

[LeftishBrit]

7. I agree with you in very many cases; but you've probably already guessed what I'm about to add

It's also the case that in very many cases, the more pro-Palestinian a person is, the more they endorse policies and actions that result in dead Palestinians.

Israelis and Palestinians have their own long-standing very real conflict; but they are also both used as pawns in proxy conflicts, and this doesn't help the situation one little bit.

[Chulanowa]

8. I haven't seen it, I'm afraid

I've seen a lot of racist warmongers lobbing that accusation, but I don't think I've ever seen it in action. See, there's a difference.

Pro-Palestinian people want the Palestinians to have what belongs to the Palestinians.
Pro-Israeli people want the Israelis to have what belongs to the Palestinians, too.

It's rectification vs. escalation - And I'm sorry if that sounds like a Tim Rice Disney lyric.

[LeftishBrit]

9. Do you think ANYthing belongs to the Israelis?

I'm as anti-Occupation as anyone; but the Israelis should have the right to live, and be left alone, within the 67 borders.

Even if one argues that the establishment of Israel was a mistake/injustice, so was the establishment of many countries in their present form (including the USA and UK) and one can't just abolish them.

The alternatives seem to be:

(1) Present situation - unstable, unjust, and recipe for constant war.

(2) Peaceful secular one-state solution. Perhaps the ideal, but not going to happen within the next 30 or 40 years.

(3) Recolonization by single country or international group, perhaps to enforce (2). Probably impossible, and in any case is colonization what anyone wants?

(4) Arab conquest of Israel, with expulsion of Israelis. Not a just solution.

(5) State similar to Lebanon, with constant civil war. The likely result of attempting to impose (2) at present time, and not a desirable solution.

(6) End of Occupation, with two-state solution. Difficult but possible, and the best of the actual possibilities at present.

[Chulanowa]

10. Do you want to argue against anything I said...

Or are you just going to keep screaming at your hallucinations? Have I anywhere said nothing belongs to the Israelis? Or that they don't have the right to live or be left alone?

...Does it even matter if I have? :rofl:

[LeftishBrit]

11. First of all, I don't see what was 'screaming' about my post...

unless you mean my emphasizing the word 'any' in anything?? I thought that I wrote a rather detailed and substantive post about possible solutions, whether you agree with it or not. Did you just read the heading and nothing more?

Perhaps there is a difference in the ways that we use the word 'pro-Israeli'. I was commenting on your statement:

'Pro-Palestinian people want the Palestinians to have what belongs to the Palestinians.
Pro-Israeli people want the Israelis to have what belongs to the Palestinians, too.'

If this refers to *all* pro-Israeli people, then it does suggest that nothing belongs to the Israelis. Hence my argument about it. If you mean 'pro-Occupation' people, then I'd actually agree with you, but it would help if you clarified it.



"...Does it even matter if I have?"

Well, not particularly in the big scheme of things! I don't think that our discussions on a message-board are going to have much influence on whether or how peace is achieved in the Middle East. But since we *are* discussing things on a message-board, each of us has the right to comment, and to ask for clarifications.

Frankly, I think you are sometimes perceiving disagreements, and even mere challenges to get clarification, as attacks. I am not trying to attack you. I even agree with you on a number of things; just not on everything.

[azurnoir]

6. well Ballabon went courting but the "object(s)" of his

ardor continued rejecting, so if he wants to be a vp at a third rate network more power to him

[LeftishBrit]

12. Ballabon sounds like a lunatic.

[oberliner]

13. The architect of Bush’s 2004 re-election effort in the Orthodox community

That says it all!