100,000 call for peace at Rabin memorial rally

[DuctapeFatwa]

A rally in memory of Yitzhak Rabin eight years after his murder turned into the largest leftwing demonstration since Ariel Sharon came to power as more than 100,000 people at the weekend gathered under banners denouncing occupation and demanding peace.
Although the organisers had said that Saturday night's memorial was intended to be non-partisan, many of those who descended on the Tel Aviv square where the former prime minister was assassinated carried banners demanding: "Leave the territories - save the country", and "Sharon go home".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1076432,00.html
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Comment: Israel has a population of a bit over 6 million.
100,000 people out of 6 million is a damn big march.

There has been NOTHING about this on the CrusadeNets, it even got posted in another forum here, and has been there all day, unnoticed.

How often does that happen?

It's some food for thought next time someone starts up about anti-Israel or anti-Jewish.

[The Magistrate]

1. It Is An Encouraging Event, Sir

It seems safe to assume it is well known in Israel....

[DuctapeFatwa]

2. And it is apparently under a cover ban in the US

"..verily, in that is a lesson to those endowed with sight..."

Koran 24:44

[Darranar]

3. Great News!

The Israeli Left is certainly still out there.

[Jack Rabbit]

4. It's very important

It's very important for the Israeli Left to keep grass roots opposition to Sharon and his failed policies of war and repression front and center. There is an alternative to endless strife.

[Violet_Crumble]

22. The Israeli Left...

Reading posts in this forum, some would have us believe that the Israeli Left believes the Occupied Territories is part of Israel, that removing the settlements is genocide, that building a wall deep into Palestinian territory is good for so many reasons, and that it's acceptable for the Israeli Left to vote for Sharon out of fear. The Israeli Left, because no-one who is left-wing could honestly support those things, faces much more in the way of smears than any of us would ever face. The assasination of Rabin left huge shoes to fill, and until they're filled, I doubt there'll be any genuine contenders for the role of a 'partner in peace'...

Violet...

[bluesoul]

23. Well

According to some people, the Israeli left, peace activists and anyone opposing the occupation, illegal settlements and Israel's RW policy is "misguided" and actually a "terror apologet". I have heard it here on DU, mind you...

[ForestsBeatBushes]

25. Why, you must have misunderstood!

The Israeli Left believes no such thing.

You may have misunderstood something I have posted, however.

I posted that IMHO Sharon could have been voted in due to the fear engendered in the majority of the Israeli population due to the terrorism they constantly suffer at the hands of various groups.

(edited for typo - sorry)

[bluesoul]

26. To clarify

Actually I wasn't refering to you and I didn't say the Israeli left believed it, but that some believe that the Israeli left is the one "misguided".

[ForestsBeatBushes]

27. Thank you, bluesoul, again.

I would think I was paranoid, but sometimes it seems they really are after you. But, you set me straight that this wasn't one of those times. Hey, someone on some thread mentioned meds kicking in...care to share?

[tinnypriv]

5. Even worse, it was more like 150,000

At least, that's what Ma'ariv had on their front page.

[tinnypriv]

6. Which would be about 6 million in D.C (ratio-wise)

[DuctapeFatwa]

7. WHOA! I was trying to figure it out, but I am Against Arithmetic

on general principle.

Wouldn't that be KEWLNESS, to see 6 million people in the streets in Washington?

[tinnypriv]

8. That would be terrorism

Protest against The Regime may be for the moment only an irritant, but will be outlawed soon enough.

Please report to Camp X-Ray for "reprogramming".

We will provide shackles but you may bring your own hood.

Thank you for your co-operation.

[tinnypriv]

9. Amusingly, I was informed by some rightist that Maariv = 'shakranim'

(liars)

Apparently Israeli TV also reported that the police said the numbers were 40k or so.

Who to believe? Has a police force in any country ever not undereported crowds? :D

I'm sticking with over a hundred thou'.

[Darranar]

10. Nope! Didn't happen!

It wasn't reported by the "comprehensive" Jerusalem Post!

[Herschel]

11. Explain yourself

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/jpost/index.html?ts=1067998065

I apologize for the link difficulty. Here is the information in the Jerusalem Post



100,000 remember Rabin:
MATTHEW GUTMAN, Gil Hoffman contributed to this report.. Jerusalem Post. Jerusalem: Nov 2, 2003. pg. 01

People: Rabin, Yitzhak, Peres, Shimon, Kahane, Meir
Section: News
Text Word Count 898

Abstract (Article Summary)
An estimated 100,000 people packed Kikar Rabin in Tel Aviv on Saturday night to pay homage to slain prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, gathering at the spot where he was gunned down eight years ago to show support for the peace process he helped launch.

On Friday, vandals - taking advantage of the poor security near Rabin's memorial just behind Kikar Rabin - spray-painted a large ...

[Darranar]

12. I already searched...

using those exact words.

No results.

[Herschel]

13. Go to the home page

and search for "Rabin".

[Darranar]

16. You're right, I'm wrong...

though it was very well buried.

And their editorial on the matter was rather sickening...

Can they ever NOT attack the Israeli Left? It is that sort of attitude that caused his assasination.

[Fight_n_back]

14. This may be the first

positive thing I have ever seen you post about Israel. Kudos to you sir.

[DuctapeFatwa]

15. It may be the first post of mine you have read

I have consistently expressed a view in favor of Israel's existence, which in my opinion is jeopardized by the US policy of using it as a weapons dump in the guise of being "Israel's friend."

I do not believe that either the US policy nor the sharon regime's are compatible with Israel's existence as a nation, or the best interests or security of the Israeli people.

And by the Israeli people, I mean the schoolteachers the low wage earners, the Ethiopians, the Israeli Arabs, the Moroccans, and zog zog zog, not just the Russian mafia, which is unfortunately, the only facee of Israel that most Americans are allowed to see.

[Fight_n_back]

17. The fact

that you continuously spout propoganda that you know to be untrue could hardly be considered positive.

And the fact that you think you are the arbiter of who is truly Jewish is frankly a little ... odd.

[DuctapeFatwa]

18. Where have I said anything about "who is truly Jewish?" link?

And as I said, I frequently express a view in favor of Israel's continued existence, which I suppose could be considered propaganda by those who benefit from it as a weapons dump in the short term.

The truly Jewish thing, I am baffled, maybe you are confusing me with someone else?

[Forkboy]

19. I look forward to seeing your hatred of propaganda

in the thread where Daniel Pipes is praised.

[DuctapeFatwa]

20. Daniel Pipes does an excellent job as Islamophobe poster boy

There you go, I praised him.

Did everybody on here do acid tonight except me?

[Forkboy]

21. my apologies DF

my comment was directed at Yang and I responded to your post by mistake.He seems especially bothered by propaganda,which is good.I'm hoping this trend of his will continue.

Sorry for the confusion.

on edit-Actually I did reply to the correct post.Pay attention willya ;-)

Look like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue :)

[ForestsBeatBushes]

24. Hey!

Is that an "Airplane" reference? Good show! :hi:

[drdon326]

28. FBB

My favorite line from the movie:

"the shits really going to hit the fan"

[ForestsBeatBushes]

29. I have to admit I love that movie

I also enjoyed all the reporters running for the bank of phones in order to file their stories ... and the bank of phones topples over


(not that I enjoy slapstick, no way :silly: !)

[DuctapeFatwa]

30. LOL, np, it was an interesting surreal moment, just as I was

hearing Twilight Zone music at Yang's inexplicable remark, a complete non sequitur involving Daniel Pipes had an odd whimsical rightness, and I considered replying with a recipe for Sweet Potatoes with garam masala and a list of Favorite Lines from Linda Purl TV movies.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

31. May I please have the recipe for sweet potatoes?

YUM :9

[The Magistrate]

32. A Marsala Might Surprise You, Sir

Are you familiar with Pakistani and Indian cuisine?

[bluesoul]

33. Mmmmm

Yummy :9 :thumbsup:

[ForestsBeatBushes]

35. yes and yes - bring on the spices!

[DuctapeFatwa]

38. Marsala is what you could drink WITH your garam masala sweetaters, but

personally I prefer a good burgundy, preferably Clos de Vougeout.

You can also put garam masala in pumpkin pie, spice cake (duh) gingerbread, any dish made with any member of the squash family. You can also put it in banana milkshakes.

I like food from everywhere. Have you ever had a chicken tikka burrito with kimchi and chimol? You can use leftover biryani or yebeg wot if you are out of chicken tikka, or both! if you are very hungry, and you can also use FryBread instead of a tortilla. Or you can have a moo shoo burrito on injera bread, with jalapeno and tomatillo salsa and lime pickle. Kimchi, by the way, is also very good on hot dogs.

[DuctapeFatwa]

34. Sure! here you go

You will need cooked sweet potatoes. If you want to bake them, leave the peel on and bake them for about an hour-hour and a half if they are big. If you want to boil them, peel them, throw in some water and boil them till you can stick a fork in.

Once you have them cooked, mix and mash up with some butter, salt, garam masala, pecans, and raisins. You should add brown sugar, too, but I know this is a sensitive topic. No one can tell you how much of these things to put in. You have to keep tasting it and when the Golden Moment arrives, you will Know.

Mix it all up, and then whip them with an electric mixer until you get a smooth puree, insert spoon in puree, remove spoon, insert spoon in mouth.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

36. Now I am so hungry and

it's not even 11am here.

My favorite part: "You have to keep tasting it ... ".

Thank you; it looks dee-licious!

[The Magistrate]

37. It Is The Contents Of The Garam Masala That Can Prove Surprising, Sir

Persons essaying this the first time are advised to adding that with sparing and caution....

[DuctapeFatwa]

39. I don't think that applies to people who never eat anything without

at least a few raw jalapeno peppers on the side.

Try it next time you have a PBJ with unsalted butter and black currant jam!

[The Magistrate]

40. Currant Jam Is Good, Sir

To add it to peanut butter is abomination; indeed, the addition of peanut butter to just about anything save Miracle Whip is an offense against that is good, decent, and tasty....

[DuctapeFatwa]

41. well, you should use cashew or almond butter then. All Miracle Whip

should be collected and destroyed in accordance with Level 5 Hazardous Waste protocols.

[The Magistrate]

42. It Provides An Essential Lubricant, Sir

That true mayonnaise falls short of. It is an essential element of Hoosier haute cuisine, which my rearing was immersed in. If you are unable to know the joys of its most essential element, bacon grease, you have my deepest sympathy, Sir.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

46. Mayonnaise falls short of nothing, you MW!

Speaking as M, I find the most essential element of MW to be some sort of sweet disgustingness. I refer you to:

http://www.TheMayonnaiseVsMiracleWhipWars.org

[The Magistrate]

50. It Lacks Acidic Tang, Sir

Stimulation of saliva production is essential to prevent the peanut butter coating the roof of the mouth, and to enable it to be swallowed.

[DuctapeFatwa]

53. There is One True Mayonnaise, and its name is Hellman's

Without Hellman's, there can be no egg salad, no potato salad, no tomato sandwich, no devilled eggs. In short, sir, the good people of Protestant South Carolina would starve.

[bluesoul]

54. Thomy

is not bad either Ductape! :9

[The Magistrate]

55. In All Fairness, Mr. Fatwa

You have identified above some areas in which mayonnaise is superior, yet it remains necessary to insist on the fact that with peanut butter, and in preparation of tuna and chicken salad, it is an inferior article.

The less said concerning tomato sandwiches, or uncooked tomato in general, the better....

[DuctapeFatwa]

56. No human being really mixes Miracle Whip with peanut butter

for any purpose other than the filling of mischievous slime balloons on festive occasions or on-the-fly automotive maintenance.

Are you suggesting that anyone is so depraved as to actually consume this unspeakable combination?

I am off to prepare a large batch of aloo gobi for tacos, topped with mango chutney and habanero sauce, just to blot this disturbing thought from my mind.

[The Magistrate]

60. A Great Proprtion Of My Bodily Substance, Sir

Was compounded of the combination, prior to the age of ten, anyway. As to whether it is proper to call me a human being, you could probably find arguments against the idea in certain quarters, especially those who have lived with me many years....

My own dinner will be beef with white vegetable over rice tonight.

[DuctapeFatwa]

62. I ask, tho I dread to learn, what in the name of all that is frightening

is "white vegetable?"

[The Magistrate]

64. Bok Choy, Mr. Fatwa

Often refered to on menus as "Chinese Greens", but white vegetable is its literal translation. It looks rather similar to celery, but without the fiberous ribs, and with larger leaves: the stalks are white, the leaves green with white veining. Preparation is generally into lengths of about an inch or so, cooked till just soft. It has a touch of sweetness.

[DuctapeFatwa]

66. Ohh! I use that all the time - to make kimchi, in salads, stir-fried with

anything, that is a perfectly respectable vegetable.

I had expected you were going to say something offensive like turnips.

[bemildred]

61. On the other hand,

peanut butter, mayonnaise, and banana samdwiches are excellent.
Use whole wheat bread if you must think about cholesterol.

[DuctapeFatwa]

63. I am truly an innocent. I had no idea such depravity existed

Bananas are intended to be sliced very thinly and strategically sprinkled into Kashmiri lamb just before serving, not thrust wantonly into sandwiches infested with ill-matched condiments.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

69. Brother M

Let us be tolerant of all the Ms in our group.

You are both correct, IMHO.

The lamb dish is of course superior cuisine, but, may I say please, that there is nothing quite so delightful as a peanut butter and MAYONNAISE sandwich.



(edited b/c PC made sp. error)

[The Magistrate]

65. Wife Tends To Leave Out The Mayonnaise From That One, Sir

In that form it is familiar to me, though not congenial to my own taste. Daughter likes it, and so do the grandchildren.

In my experience, Sir, put bluntly, women will eat damned near anything together with peanut butter.

[bemildred]

67. Replying to both ...

This concoction does seem more agreeable to the young,
assuming one can overcome their initial revulsion at the
ingredient list.

You will be pleased to know I have never seen it done
with Miracle Whip, although I would expect such depravity does
exist.

At certain times in my life I have heard it said that peanut
butter is the root and source of all life on Earth.

I must confess I don't much care for it anymore, and have not
for some decades now.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

68. MW, I shall alert on your sexist slur!

[ForestsBeatBushes]

58. Those are fighting words, Magistrate, you MW!

There is nothing so wonderful as a tomato sandwich with Hellman's/BestFood's Mayonnaise.

You have revealed much with this post!

[ForestsBeatBushes]

57. You are correct, brother M, however

we in the West call it Best Food's

and so here

it is "Bring out the Best Food's, the Best Food's the Best"

rather than in the East where

it is "Bring out the Hellman's, the Hellman's the Best"

[ForestsBeatBushes]

44. Excellent!

Now I have DuctapeFatwa on my side on the M/MW forum.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

51. I now have 3 ways to prepare this, thank you,

"M" DuctapeFatwa.

Peanut butter is good, but so is cashew and almond!

However, we must stay "M" no matter how the Magistrate protests for "MW"...an abomination, well, I should say it is!

[ForestsBeatBushes]

43. Well, this tears it!

Not only is peanut butter delightful, but Miracle Whip is an abomination!

I suggest we change this forum to M/MW (Mayonnaise/Miracle Whip) and be done with it. :hi:

[GabysPoppy]

45. Emerill Legassi (sp)

Has alerted on all you gourmets. Please be warned.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

47. First, is he "M" or "MW" - then we shall decide his fate.

[bluesoul]

48. Is this

Delicious Underground now? ;-)

[ForestsBeatBushes]

49. Identify yourself, sir! "M" or "MW"?

;)

[bluesoul]

52. Personally

I have always been on the Mayonnaise side, European tradition, needless to say ;)

[ForestsBeatBushes]

59. Excellent - another M on the forum!