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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 03:54 AM
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Ultra-orthodox Jews visit Hamas
Four members of a group of ultra-orthodox Jews opposed to the existence of Israel have visited Hamas in Gaza.

The men, clad in the traditional ultra-orthodox garb of black hats and coats and with long side-curls in their hair, met Hamas leader Ismail Haniya.

The Neturei Karta believe that a Jewish state can only be established by the Messiah and thus denounce Israel as heretic and embrace its enemies.

Mr Haniya welcomed them, saying Hamas rejects Zionist ideology, not Jews.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8155350.stm
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:02 AM
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1. A meeting of the lunatic fringes
Hamas rejects Zionist ideology, not Jews

I put this in the same category as more of the "Change You Can Believe In," a category that has left a bitter taste in those of us that expected real change in US policy in Latin America.

Hamas is a terrorist group, period!

There is no Messiah. There has never been a Messiah. There will never be a Messiah.

We are on our own!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:16 AM
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2. God'll get you for that, Walter.
>>>>here is no Messiah. There has never been a Messiah. There will never be a Messiah.

We are on our own!>>>>>


Now you've done it.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 07:28 AM
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3. This was the possition of many of the Hasidim prior to the
creation of Israel by the U.N. They accepted Israel since it was a done deal. I've often wondered if there were still strains of anti-Zionism among them. It looks like it might be flowering again.

Ain't it wonderful living in "exciting times"?
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:00 AM
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4.  Neturei Karta
pretty much a small group with their own special look on life...just being religious and i suspect getting to enjoy the publicity and travel......
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:03 AM
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5. They are idiots if they think Hamas has a benign view of Jews
That's like having Jews for Hitler, or Jews for Jesus.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 10:12 AM
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6. Religious-right loonies visit other religious-right loonies.
Edited on Sat Jul-18-09 10:12 AM by LeftishBrit
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 12:59 PM
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7. Hysterical
Maybe Mr. Haniya would like to be reminded of some of his commentary on Jews.

I am sure he would just love to have members of the Neturei Karta living with him in a Palestinian state.

:eyes:
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