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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 04:24 PM
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Netanyahu’s UN Speech - The Pathology of Evil
By Gilad Atzmon

Israeli PM Netanyahu’s speech at the UN is a major insight into the Israeli’s mentality, psyche and logic. In his speech, Netanyahu gives air to his genocidal inclinations, he brings to light the Israeli supremacy but he also allows us to detect some shaky and vulnerable spots at the heart of the Israeli national narrative. It seems as if the ‘discredited’ Iranian president Ahmadinejad has managed to succeed after all.

Don’t You Mess With Our Shoa

The Shoa somehow allows Israelis to kill en masse and to do it indistinguishably while insisting that it is they who happen to be the victims.

“I went to a villa in a suburb of Berlin called Wannsee.” Said Netanyahu. “There, on January 20, 1942, after a hearty meal, senior Nazi officials met and decided how to exterminate the Jewish people.”

PM Netanyahu, if you are genuinely interested in ‘extermination plans’ you do not have to travel to Wannsee, Berlin. All you have to do is visit your IDF’s headquarters in Tel Aviv. Your chief commanders will guide you through their IDF ‘solutions’ for the Palestinians. At the end of the day, it is your army that surrounds Palestinians with barbed-wire, it is you who keep civilian populations in a siege with inadequate food supplies and medicine. It is your army that poured WMD over the most densely populated neighbourhoods on this planet. While the real meaning of the ‘Nazi Final Solution’ (Die Endlösung) is still discussed by historians who fail to agree between themselves what it really meant, the true reality of the Israeli murderous solution has been seen by us all.

---CLIP

Gilad Atzmon (gilad.co.uk) is an Israeli-born writer and jazz musician living in London. He had previously served in the Israeli military but he is currently an anti-racism campaigner.

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http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=34616
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 04:39 PM
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:00 PM
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2. Gilad Atzmon? please.
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 06:11 PM by shira
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:29 PM
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3. Insightful discussion of the article. Well done, indeed! eom
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:18 PM
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4. who's up after Atzmon? Pat Buchanon? David Duke?
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:40 PM
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5. It certainly was.
Gilad Atzmon doesn't deserve a point by point refutation. He isn't to be taken seriously.
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:17 PM
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6. you didn't even read this did you?
Sabbath Goyim

Like other Zionist operations around the world, Netanyahu is convinced that the Goyim should fight the Jewish wars.

If the Israeli Ashkenazi Jews, including Netanyahu, do want to find their roots, Khazaria is the place to start.


Do you agree with these statements in the piece you posted?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 01:23 PM
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14. Informative that you would think this author warrants "insightful discussion"
Helps to give a sense where you are coming from.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:32 PM
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7. Atzmon? Fuck him. His hatred of Jews and Israel puts Hamas to shame.
:puke:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 03:09 AM
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8. As always, Atzmon spoils his case by mixing it with antisemitism and just general nuttery
I can't stand Netanyahu, and was planning to go through the article bit by bit and say what I agreed with and didn't. But how can one have a serious discussion of an article that includes such remarks as:

'....it is also America and Britain that launched illegal wars orchestrated by Zionist led Neocons and fundraisers. ...
.


Like other Zionist operations around the world, Netanyahu is convinced that the Goyim should fight the Jewish wars....

....If the United Nation is interested in bringing peace to this region and the world, it is of the essence to help Iran to develop its nuclear project and even its military capacity. It will surely stop the Zionists from celebrating their symptoms at the expense of their neighbours.


Following the successful transformation of the American and British armies into an Israeli subservient mission force, Netanyahu seems to expect the UN to follow and to fulfil the very same role.'


All you can say to such statements is Wow. And Ugh.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 03:14 AM
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9. I had a similar reaction...
I hadn't read Nutty's speech and figure I mightn't seeing as how I hadn't bothered reading my own PM's speech, but I did read another article that said that Nutty indulged in dragging up some Holocaust comparisons and I was going to pop in here and join in the ridicule of him. But then I read the OP and backed off real slowly so that no-one ever notices I was ever in this thread :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:23 AM
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10. Atzmon is truly a disgusting anti-semite. Yeah, he's Jewish. Yeah, he's
an anti-semitic bigot.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:14 PM
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11. Seems that Mr. Atzmon adheres to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion nt
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 01:01 PM
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12. LOL
It is the only genocide where the supposed victims increase in numbers exponentially.

It is the only genocide where their leaders would starve their own people for the sake of launching rockets.

It is the only genocide where the supposed victims advocate and attempt genocide against them.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 01:03 PM
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13. I wouldn't say that either side advocates or attempts genocide against the other
Violence, yes.

Genocide is what's happening in Darfur for example.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 05:36 PM
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15. What do you call the wars of aggression against Israel?
Wars whose sole basis is to expel jews from the region.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 05:44 PM
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16. What do you call wars of aggression against anyone?
They sometimes lead to genocide, but usually not. They lead to plenty of other terrible things, but I think that the term 'genocide' should be kept for specific and extreme cases.

Moreover, the actual wars against Israel were waged not by the Palestinians, but by Arab governments, of which two are fortunately on terms of peace with Israel now.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 06:16 PM
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17. What is the intention of the aggressors
A war to kill people so you can take their land is genocide.
A war to steal resources while leaving the people mostly unharmed (colonialism) is not genocide.


Them me demonstrate:
Iraq war, unjust aggressive war, but no attempt to kill everyone and/or take the land. Not Genocide
WWII, unjust aggressive war, a war of conquest to eliminate a group of people. Genocide

Basically if the intention of the aggressors is to destroy a group of people than it is genocide.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:30 AM
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18. There is no genocide in the Middle East. What's so hard to comprehend about that?
You appear very determined to make out that any country in the region that's had conflict with Israel is genocidal, while Israel is the sole state that stays above the genocide label. I find yr comments about genocide to be every bit as ignorant as those of people who insist just as pigheadedly that Israel is committing genocide on the Palestinians. I do find yr claims as to motivation to be rather self-serving and displaying just a bit of ignorance of the history of the region, and that sort of ignorance is something that's also displayed by those who insist that Israel's committing genocide. Genocide is a term that has a legal and very official meaning and people who come along and try to fuck around with it to suit their own agenda are totally abusing it...

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