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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:12 AM
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Hezbollah to continue arming to fight Israel
BEIRUT — Hezbollah's leader said Monday that the Lebanese militant group will improve its weapons capabilities to face off any Israeli threat and that armed struggle was the only way to regain Arab lands captured by the Jewish state.

Hassan Nasrallah's remarks signaled the group has no intention of meeting a United Nations resolution requiring it to give up its weapons. That position that has generated division among the country's fractious political groups as well as concern in Israel, which says it is preparing to deploy a defense system to shoot down rockets from Lebanon.

Nasrallah gave no details on the weapons plans, but Hezbollah has said it has tens of thousands of rockets.

Israel's military says that since its 2006 war with the group, Hezbollah has tripled its prewar arsenal to more than 40,000 rockets, some of which can strike virtually anywhere in Israel — a dramatic improvement over the short-range missiles fired in 2006.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j5_4F3O4R_FumnawPxaa2pAa1XZwD9CA13N00
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 12:44 PM
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1. Hezbollah blames U.S. for all terrorism
Beirut, Lebanon (CNN) -- Hezbollah's chief on Monday announced the group's new "manifesto," which calls on all countries to "liberate Jerusalem" and declares the United States a threat to the world.

"American terrorism is the source of every terrorism in the world," Hassan Nasrallah said in a televised speech from an undisclosed location.

It was his first address since a unity government formed in Lebanon this month, ending a crisis that had left the country with no government since June's parliamentary elections.


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"We invite and call on all Arabs and Muslims and all countries keen on peace and stability in the world to intensify efforts and resources to liberate Jerusalem from Zionist occupation and to maintain its true identity and its Islamic and Christian sanctities," Nasrallah said.

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/11/30/lebanon.hezbollah/index.html
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 01:07 PM
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2. But Israel's response is too strong. Gotta love me some dimwits in America.
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 01:08 PM by imdjh
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:06 PM
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3. As well they should.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:59 PM
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4. As well they should?
So, violating UN security council resolutions is ok for Hezbollah?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:05 AM
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5. Israel's also violated security council resolutions...
I just thought that was worth pointing out as you don't appear to be aware of it...
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:00 AM
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6. yeah, it's apparently "progressive" to cheer on a terror group that's armed by Iran
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:33 AM by shira
if you ignore Hezbollah's own illegal military occupation of Lebanese soil, forget that these Islamist fundies couldn't care less about the 400,000 Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, and believe they're actually a resistance group whose top priority isn't to target Jewish civilians while hiding like cowards behind their own, then of course they get the kosher hechsher as "freedom" fighters who should rightfully arm themselves for "self defense" reasons.

:eyes:

you must a 'true believer' in the narrative - fantasy trumps reality - facts and reasoned logic are blasphemous to the 'religiously' devout.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:19 AM
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7. Zionists touting UN security council resolutions? Interesting!
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:26 AM by ProgressiveMuslim
Given Israel's history of aggression, along with the fact that Israel is armed to the teeth, Oberliner, do you really NOT understand why its neighbors feel threatened? Seriously?


I get that as a supporter of Israel you don't like it, but are you incapable of understanding it?

I'm curious... Are you one of the Americans who believes that only a select few countries (with the US stamp of approval) have the right to acquire arms? (not putting Hezbollah in this category, btw). I don't recall the US ever seeking permission to acquire arms.

I always find it curious when Americans expect that other nations will conduct themselves as pseudo-nations, without the right to exercise their sovereignty as they see fit.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:31 AM
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8. Israel's neighbors like Hamas and Hezbollah, backed by Iran, feel threatened?
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 07:30 AM by shira
all they have to do is not attack Israelis and Israel will not have a reason to touch Lebanon.

what's so difficult about this?

why pretend that intolerant, jingoistic Islamist fundy groups like Hamas and Hezbollah - who couldn't give a crap even about the hundreds of thousands of suffering Palestinian refugees among them - feel 'threatened' by Israel?

You drinking the Hamas / Hezbollah / Iranian "resistance" koolaid?
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:20 PM
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12. You're foaming a bit, dear.
Jingo-istic? That's a new one. Is it in the latest talking points?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:50 PM
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15. just keeping it real.....truth to power and all
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 05:51 PM by shira
no Hezbollah and Hamas (via Iran) talking points here.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:44 PM
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17. Yes, quite a lot there to take in
I particularly liked the bits about blasphemous fantasy, reality trumped (starved and raped is more like it), suddenly against military occupations?, and... Wow, just...wow.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:57 AM
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9. as a country
Israel has every right to be armed. Lebanon has that right as well. To arm its national forces.


Hizbullah is not an army of a country, they are an illegally armed militia/terror group. One who does not recognize Israel's right to exist, does not even recognize that jews along with muslims and christians have a religious tie to Jerusalem.
They are scum, and I wish the UN would do by force what they need to do to enforce the resolution to disarm Hizbullah, instead of standing idly by watching them rearm.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:54 AM
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10. Lebanon absolutely has the right to arm itself
Hezbollah, however, is an extra-governmental militia that is required by international law to be disbanded and/or absorbed into Lebanon's armed forces.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:18 PM
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11. That's why I said I wasn't putting Hezbollah in that category. But you'd have no problem with
Lebanon acquiring arms?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:04 PM
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13. Not if those arms end up in the hands of Hezbollah
Personally, I think it would great if every country around the world would give up their weapons and live together in peace and harmony.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:19 PM
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14. ITA. I just think it's insane for the US and Israel to think every country EXCEPT US should
give them up.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:06 PM
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16. Lebanon Cabinet lets Hezbollah keep its weapons
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:07 PM by shira
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1132250.html

Too bad, because next time Hezbollah strikes at Israel it will be Lebanon's responsibility.

Of course with Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran occupying Lebanon and holding a gun to the Govt's head, it's not as if the Lebanese Govt has another option.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:47 PM
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18. "with Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran occupying Lebanon"
I'll regret this, but impish curiousity has overwhelmed me:--what the fuck? You've made some variation of this at least twice, please explain this remark.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:11 PM
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19. here....for those interested in fact, not fiction
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 09:13 PM by shira
Lebanon Is Still an Occupied Country

Elias Youssef Bejjani
25 Nov 2009


http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=3234

unless you believe things have changed in Lebanon in the week since this article was submitted?
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:41 PM
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20. Absolutely did not fail to disappoint
In a world of constantly shifting forces, this consistancy is much appreciated. And entertaining.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:30 AM
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21. you disagree with the article? why?
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