Israel Glorifies Its Own Murderers

[Purveyor]

In their March 17 Times Op-Ed article, "Why glorify the murderers?" Ron Kehrmann, Yossi Mendelevich and Yossi Zur make a number of misleading statements and remove all historical context in their effort to demonize Palestinians as people who hate Israeli children more than they love their own.

To begin with, the Palestinian Authority did not "decide to honor" Dalal Mughrabi, as the authors claim; the decision was made by a lower-level municipal council. The Palestinian Authority, in fact, canceled the public ceremony that was planned. Moreover, the square in question has not been renamed after Mughrabi.

The personal pain Kehrmann, Mendelevich and Zur have suffered as parents who lost children in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict cannot be minimized or dismissed. But if Israelis are so concerned about the glorification of "terrorists," they should start cleaning up their own backyard.

To cite just one example of many, in July 2006 a plaque was unveiled in Jerusalem's King David Hotel honoring the men of the Irgun terrorist group who bombed the hotel in 1948, killing 92 people. In response, the British ambassador to Israel issued a statement declaring, "We do not think that it is right for an act of terrorism, which led to the loss of many lives, to be commemorated." Among those attending the ceremony honoring the mass murderers was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. One of the perpetrators of the crime was on hand to provide guided tours.

Irgun's leader, Menachem Begin, would go on to be elected prime minister of Israel, as would his fellow pre-1948 Zionist terrorist leader Yitzhak Shamir. Both men were responsible for the murder of far more innocents than Mughrabi, both men were unrepentant, and both men are honored in myriad ways in Israel today.

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LATIMES: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinionla/la-oew-hazou26-2010mar26,0,5069413.story

[aquart]

1. Have you seen the hate-filled spew the Arabs teach THEIR kids?

I'm really impressed that you choose to represent only one side in this squabble.

BOTH SIDES HATE EACH OTHER. They say basically the same ratty things about each other. They eagerly dehumanize each other.

It's pretty damn common. Just read DUers talking about Republicans and vice versa.

BTW, do you have one single reason why an Israeli should LIKE a Palestinian? How about Jordan which is withdrawing citizenship from Palestinian Arabs BORN in Jordan? How about Egypt which is building a wall to keep them out (shades of our border with Mexico)? Are you feeling the love coming at them from all over, not just Israel?

I've noticed that the biggest champions of the Palestinians are the people who live farthest from them. Why is that?

[Violet_Crumble]

3. I am so bookmarking that post to use when examples of hate from Palestinians gets posted!

Thanks, Aquart! ;)

[azurnoir]

19. here is a true gem from the same poster

aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-27-09 08:53 PM
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3. Why would the Israelis believe those children were not booby trapped?

Are you telling me the Palestinians have not sent children into places where Israelis live and work with no other intention but to kill as many as possible? Guess what? When you do that to people they tend to believe you are dangerous and unsafe to be around.

Why, among all the peoples of the world, are only the Israelis not allowed to hold a grudge, to be afraid even of children of the people who send their children to explode themselves?

It's a consequence of a deliberate Palestinian choice. Ugly, isn't it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=255218#255223

she was defending IDF allegedly killing children carrying a white flag

[ProgressiveMuslim]

5. Like the chum you post here in the DU?

I utterly reject your claim that "both sides" engage in that activity.

Certainly regulars from both sides don't engage in it here.

YOu do, of course... but it does not happen on both sides. No one makes blanket claims like yours above!

Can you imagine the outcry if someone said, "Israelis teach their kids hate." or worse, like you did above: "Jews teach their kids hate!"

[proteus_lives]

9. Then you've never watched Hamas TV.

"I utterly reject your claim that "both sides" engage in that activity."

They have children's programming where they explain that Jews are demons and how awesome martyrdom is.

[Dick Dastardly]

11. It was a deliberate mistranslation just like Farfour the peace mouse was smeared.

Farfour the peace mouse preached peace and for that he was murdered by Jews.

[Violet_Crumble]

12. So you agree with Aquart's post and other comments she's made about Arabs?

Just checking.

[proteus_lives]

13. Someone loves putting words in people's mouths today.

I wasn't even responding to Aquart. I was responding to PM because she's uniformed or lying.

[Violet_Crumble]

14. Asking you a question isn't putting words in yr mouth...

So, do you agree with Aquart's comment and her other comments she's made about Arabs? I'm curious to know...

[proteus_lives]

15. Do they hate each other? Some of them do.

Do they dehumanize each other? Some of them do.

Do the governments of Egypt and Jordan regularly fuck the Palestinians over while claiming friendship? Yeah.

I'm not comfortable assigning motive to entire groups.

About the only emotion I would claim both groups generally share is a massive distrust of each other.

Her other comments? You'll have to refresh me.

[Violet_Crumble]

16. So I take that as saying you don't agree with Aquart's post?

If you haven't seen her other comments, you've missed a barrage of rather nasty generalisations about Arabs...

[cali]

17. but of course both sides engage in it. the evidence of that is overwhelming

pretending that only the evil Israelis do it is beyond disingenuous.

[ProgressiveMuslim]

18. What pro-Palestinian regular in I/P engages in that? No one.

[LeftishBrit]

6. So the Arab states' actions toward Palestinians are justifiable, or justify Israel's?

I'm not quite sure which of these you mean.

Yes, Egypt blockades Gaza; yes, Jordan denies many Palestinians citizenship. This is disgusting, and it's even more disgusting because the Arab states claim to be pro-Palestinian when complaining about Israel, and sometimes people swallow the rhetoric.

But this does not justify Israel in doing anything it wants either (especially as the Palestinians, like it or not, are currently under Israel's jurisdiction). Nor is there something uniquely awful about Palestinians which makes them deserve to be hated by everyone - shades of what antisemites say about Jews.

[Jefferson23]

2. Governments honor, too often, disgusting things leaders are responsible for.

I know I'm not looking forward to knowing there will be a statue of GW Bush ANY WHERE in the United States. Never mind some sort of Cheney, hats off momento..ugh.

[cali]

4. and Arafat is honored throughout the WB and Gaza

something the author fails to note. both sides do exactly the same shit when it comes to this.

[LeftishBrit]

7. Yes, and most countries get very 'Rah! Rah! Rah!'; about their military leaders who killed loads of

'enemies' (often enough sacrificing plenty of their own troops in the process).

Not restricted to the Middle East.

[aranthus]

8. The King David attack was no more terrorism than the kidnapping of Gilad Shalit

Both were military targets attacked for military purposes. I realize that the author is going to sling the terrorism charge to try to gain some moral equivalence, but that's no reason for people to buy into it. It doesn't wash in this case.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

10. Nonsense

Gilad Shalit was a soldier, in an army carrying out an illegal military occupation.

The King David Hotel bombing killed 91 people, most of them innocent civilians.

Even if you equate the British Mandate with the Israeli occupation - which I don't - and the attempts to replace the former with a colonial Jewish state with the attempts to replace the latter by self-rule for the natives - which I certainly don't - (incidentally, "was it in a good cause" is of course an entirely different question to "is it terrorism") if you attempt to present the King David Hotel bombing as not terrorism, you're implying that everyone in the employ of the State of Israel is a legitimate target.

One is terrorism, the other isn't, plain and simple. I think your trying to present the later as not terrorism is perfectly demonstrates the OP's point.