Meshal: All options against Israel are open, including war

[oberliner]

Hamas political leader Khaled Meshal said on Saturday that all options against Israel remain open, including war, Channel 10 news reported.

"We will do everything to obtain the rights stolen from us, including confrontation with the enemy," he told journalists.

Meshal was meeting with senior members of Palestinian terrorist organizations, including Ahmed Jibril, the head of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

Jibril said that he supports efforts to achieve Palestinian reconciliation. Regarding Israel, he added that Palestinians are being asked to relinquish their rights "first and foremost, armed resistance."

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1160745.html

[sellitman]

1. What has changed?

They have been at war since Israel was founded.

[aquart]

2. So he's not annoyed at Jordan for evaporating citizenship

of Palestinian Arabs born in Jordan?

[azurnoir]

3. So care to tell us how many Palestinians that would be?

and exactly what % of Palestinians in Jordan that is ?

Or care to admit that you were being completely disingenuous?

[Ken Burch]

5. Give it a rest. The "Jordan is the Palestinian state" meme NEVER worked

It was never accepted by anyone and it can never be part of a peace settlement. Stop trying to sneak something in that you know is futile and wrong.

[Chulanowa]

6. It's inconsequential

As Ken points out, Jordan is not palestine. Assorted chunks of Israel are.

Jordan's expulsion of Palestinians is no doubt offensive - as is Kuwait's (especially Kuwait's, the post-war bullshit the Emirate pulled with all its "undesirables" was fucking disgusting) - but when speaking of Palestinian territory, Jordan and Kuwait have as much relevance as Chad or Tierra del Fuego.

[azurnoir]

7. the way the poster presented this issue

was at best disingenuous

here is more about this

In 1989, when Jordan disengaged from the West Bank, all Palestinians residing in the West Bank were considered Palestinian, while others in the diaspora with Jordanian passports were considered Jordanian.

The decision was made to allow the Palestine Liberation Organisation to act as the sole and legitimate representative of the Palestinian people.

Following the disengagement, Jordan issued yellow cards to Palestinians in Jordan and the diaspora holding Jordanian passports, which entitled these individuals to the full rights of Jordanian citizenship.

Palestinians in the West Bank who had family living in Jordan were issued green cards, which entitled them to temporary Jordanian passports to facilitate travel but did not grant them citizenship rights.

Palestinians with yellow cards who return to Palestine and receive recognition as nationals under either Israeli or Palestinian law revoke their right to a yellow card and are issued a green card when they renew their passports. Conversely, Palestinians with green cards may be granted yellow cards in certain circumstances, such as when their parents reside in Jordan and hold yellow cards.

According to figures cited by the deputy, authorities replaced 190 yellow cards with green ones and 5,130 green cards with yellow ones in the period between March 1 and June 30, 2009, compared to replacing 204 yellow cards with green and 4,139 green with yellow in the same period in 2008.

The figures also show that 244 people were issued green cards, while 2,696 were issued yellow cards in the same period of 2007.

“The rumours about this issue are the result of the political developments in the region,” Daoud quoted the minister as saying.

Interior officials have defended the procedures saying that they are meant to counter Israeli policies to “empty the Palestinian lands from their legitimate residents”.

http://www.jordantimes.com/?news=18480&searchFor=citize...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

also here is HRW's press release on this issue which makes no mention of the demographic question as the numbers given 3000 out of 3,000,000 would be 1/10 of 1 percent hardly a dent in demographics making that something interjected by the OP's author for whatever reason, but still I would comend HRW for taking up this issue and hopefully there will be justice for the people affected

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/02/01/jordan-stop-withd...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=299396

[oberliner]

8. Which "assorted chunks" of Israel are Palestine and which are not?

Are we not talking primarily about the land that was occupied by Jordan and Egypt until 1967? Doesn't that make Jordan slightly more relevant to the discussion than Chad? Up until about 20 years ago, Jordan was still claiming the West Bank as its own. I don't think Chad has ever made any claims to the West Bank.

[Ken Burch]

4. Israel always says the same re: Palestinians

Why is it any worse when Hamas says it?