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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 09:13 AM Original message |
Berkeley's Israel boycott: The occupation's new friend |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I support BDS efforts, what I think he points out here is, do it smart |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. While I am not in favour of BDS (certainly not the 'B' part) , I agree that if done properly, it |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yes, about the naivete, I agree with that. Would be interesting to learn |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. C.f. Drugs, War on, 1969-present, Nixon et al? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Indeed ! |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Just, my Honest Opinion |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Do you think that would have worked in South Africa? |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Is Gaza part of the Palestine of which you write? |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Possibly |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Have you bought into the "let's pretend Gaza doesn't exist and make 'economic peace' |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. pardon? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Do you think it's feasible to pursue "economic peace" in the WB and ignore the situation in |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I think that is a bad strawman... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Strawman? There are those in Israel who advance the concept of "economic peace" with the WB. |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. And this article has what to do with the topic of hand? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Except that the PA's term has legally expired, they have no legitmacy, and they run a police state. |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Then blame Hamas |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Blame Hamas? You must be kidding me. |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Who is kidding whom? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I personally support Barghouti -- Mustapha Barghouti. |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. ... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Too little... too late. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Haven't the Palestinians themselves called for BDS and are aware |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. Couldn't disagree more. I love Naomi Klein's response to BDS nay-sayers: |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. He is making a case for credibility, without it, the effort has less impact. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Can you explain more fully what you mean? It's not credible to equally blame the oppressors |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not at all, the emphasis primarily is on Israel in the motion, |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. He makes a strong case, but I'm not 100% sure I agree with him. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Or how about the camp that says: Let's make continuing the unconscionable status quo |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. That's roughly the second option I outlined. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. which facts....please list... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. How many bombs from Israel? oh wait we're not supposed to say that |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. The fact that Israel has yet to make a viable offer. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. The fact that Israel has yet to make a viable offer. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. Burston may have a point here however |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
32. "Why are American Jewish groups so intent on defending illegal Israeli settlements and other human |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. NEXT UP: GEORGETOWN UNVERSITY! woo hooo! |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Georgetown University cannot divest from the several companies the coalition is highlighting |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:43 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Matters not. Georgetown students are talking BDS! THE LIST GROWS! Coming to a university near you! |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. They ISM held a divestment conference at Georgetown four years ago |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. It is a joy to watch college students "get it" and demand justice. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I hear ya |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. When my daughter and her co-classmates demanded justice at her university, they had |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Maybe people have different ideas about justice? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I suppose the food throwers believed the slaughtered Gazans got their justice and |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Even not knowing the full context of the incident you're describing - I doubt it |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Zionists advising compassion. Sweet. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Compassion would go a long way - for Zionists and anti-Zionists |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Wow. That's deep. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I don't understand what you are getting at |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
52. Israeli activists to J Street: ’stop trying to gain political capital at the expense of dedicated |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. It was disappointing at the time, J Streets position, or lack there of, on |
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