Obama has potential of being known as president who betrayed Jews

[IndianaGreen]

Nothing like an incendiary letter to liven up the Sunday morning!

:donut:

Open letter to US Jewry

Obama has potential of being known as president who betrayed Jews

Cori Chascione Published: 04.17.10, 15:34 / Israel Opinion

You hear about the controversy in Jerusalem. You know that in 2008, President Obama verbally reaffirmed what we already knew - Jerusalem is the undivided capital of the State of Israel. Now, less than two years later, he has demanded that Jews not live in certain neighborhoods in Jerusalem, based solely on the fact that they are Jews.

These issues, along with the rest of the turmoil in the region, spark your interest in a news story and I'm certain that from time to time, it's dinner conversation. But you, the American Jew, have not made this region a political priority. You, the American Jew, support President Obama and cite his domestic policies as your reason. I'm not writing to debate the president's domestic policies, I'm writing to redefine them as secondary in importance. Diplomacy is failing in Iran, the rhetoric only gets more intense, and your president, the Great Pursuer of Freedom and Righteousness, is preoccupied with where Jews live in their own capital city.

Where are your letters? Why are you rejoicing about healthcare when your president is betraying the people who, like it or not, are the very core of who you are and where you come from?

President Obama has potential to do good in America, and I truly believe that in regards to many, many issues. He also has potential to be known as the president who dropped the ball with Iran and betrayed the Jews on so, so many levels.

My message to American Jewry is really only in the form of a question - who are you? Have you forgotten?

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3877181,00.html

[BlooInBloo]

1. lolwut?

edit: Ah fuck. Accidentally ended up in teh crazyforum.

As you all were.

[Hekate]

16. You should have stuck around, Bloo. A dozen posts in and it's a pretty good thread...

The rational people dropped in, is what happened.

Hekate

[ChicagoSuz219]

19. What makes anyone think...

...that Israeli right-wingers are any less crazy than ours?

[bluestateguy]

2. Israeli/Palestinian politics are for Israelis and Palestinians to resolve. Not us.

This writer wants us to prioritize their political squabbles over our issues here in America. Well, no dice.

[FrenchieCat]

3. The Freepers will be all over this one!

You know, since they liken him to Hitler!

Thanks Indiana Green, for all that you do! :sarcasm:


:thumbsdown:

[napi21]

4. Sorry but I side with Obama. If there is ever to be peace in Israel

The Jews have to give a little too! Make Jerusalem a joint capitol if that's the BIG stumbling point. Both parties have been very wrong all along. It sounds like the Hattfielss & the McCoys...noboy can give an inch or we look weak. If you both want to keep killing each other, I guess that's a demonstration that both of you just want to fight.

[truedelphi]

10. Agree with you one hundred percent.

And a damn shame that along the passage of time, over eighteen moderate leaders from both sides, have been killed, in order to keep the blood feud going.

[Ken Burch]

22. Make the "the ISRAELIS have to give a little, too!"

If you say "The Jews", you concede the Likudnik meme that Israel IS "The Jews", rather than simply being a state with a Jewish majority where some of the world's Jewish population currently chooses to live. And you also end up conceding the point that any criticism of Israel is an attack on "The Jews".

I know you didn't mean either thing, just thought I'd inform you a little bit on how language plays out in this discussion.

[Sebastian Doyle]

5. "ynet.com" is beginning to make the Jerusalem Likud Post look sane, by comparison

:crazy:

[Lithos]

6. For openness

She made it clear during the election she was for McCain and did so in an active manner.

There is a lot of sour grapes here.

L-

[Ozymanithrax]

7. Peace in the middle east is what is good for we Jews...

Obama is trying to create that peace.

Netanyahu, on the other hand, is doing his best to destory what has been built there.

[LeftishBrit]

18. +1000

[wial]

8. the very idea a people has the right to a piece of land

already occupied by others, based on bronze age religion -- that whole mind set is what a lot of people came to America to escape. People who hold such beliefs, who live by the religious sword so to speak -- don't deserve to die by that sword, but they certainly don't deserve the material support of an ostensibly modern country like the US.

[Ozymanithrax]

26. People who came here and raped the women, murdered the men, and stole...

their lands.

We did not come here to get away from a bronze age mindset. We came because the natives were weak and the Europeans could rob them blind.

[Ken Burch]

28. That is at least partly true.

And some of us speak out today, both on Native American and Israel/Palestine issues, because we remember that and want to stop it happening again.

That's the best thing to do with historical knowledge: to apply it to the present in order to keep the worst of the past from coming back.

[Warpy]

9. Oh, come off it

He'll be known as that among the same people who think he is a well known Communist, Fascist, Muslim, Kenyan, and so on ad nauseum.

So he set Netanyahu some limits. It's high time somebody did.

Personally, I think Israel needs to retreat back within its borders and Jerusalem should be administered as a city state under UN auspices with free access to all, but that's not going to happen while both Israel and the Palestinian leadership are wedded to violence.

[The Second Stone]

11. Obama is President of the United States

and is not President of the Jews or Prime Minister of Israel. He owes his loyalty to American citizens. Israel and Jews are not synonymous.

[Jim Sagle]

12. ynet is a far right fringe site. .

Publishing this here is horribly inflammatory.

[Ken Burch]

23. What makes it really inflammatory is the DU Israel/Palestine forum rule

that the original headline from the article MUST be used as the thread title. That rule REALLY needs to be modified. And it's especially important in cases like this, where the thread is based on an article that takes a position that is the opposite of the one taken by the person who started this thread.

Indiana Green would NEVER accuse President Obama of "abandoning the Jews".

[Violet_Crumble]

25. I'd hope most people in this forum would read futher than the thread title...

The poster yr wasting yr breath on doesn't bother, but the rest of the forum doesn't have to be dumbed down to its level...

[Ken Burch]

27. I'd hope the same, but it's not just about him that I was making the point

The right-wing of the "pro-Israeli" press and cyberworld often use deliberately inflammatory headlines like that, as a part of their bogus "anyone who disagrees with us 'hates the Jews'" meme. By requiring people who post stories from that sector(most of whom post them for critical analysis purposes)to use the original headlines, DU essentially forces everyone to play along with hasbara.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

24. It's the website of Israel's most popular daily newspaper...

Far-right, maybe, but certainly not "fringe" by Israeli standards.

[aquart]

13. What is this utter crap?

What a self-important little twit.

[yurbud]

14. So Israelis can live wherever they want even if someone else already lives there?

[yurbud]

15. AIPAC and this kind of crying wolf about anti-Semitism do far more damage than any president can

[azurnoir]

17. Oh lordy what is there to say here

aso domestic policy should be of secondary importance to American Jews? Isn't that playing directly into the accusations of "dual loyalty"?

[LeftishBrit]

21. She emigrated to Israel, so now Israel is more important to her

Which brings up one of the reasons why the typical accusations regarding dual loyalty are so ridiculous. Which is that: yes, occasionally some Jews *do* decide that they feel more loyal or simply more connected to Israel than to their existing country, and *then they emigrate there*, as this is something that is very strongly encouraged by Israel. They don't stick around forming shadow governments and exerting sinister control over American/British/other leaders and forming treasonous plots!

However, expecting people, Jewish or not, who live in America (or any other country) to be more concerned en masse about a country thousands of miles away than about the economy and healthcare in their own country is fairly delusional.

[azurnoir]

29. I am quite aware that she emigrated to Israel

and is trying to incite from there it is hardly a singular incident I'll give you another example of an American expat with similar feelings

Let My People Go Up to Israel

http://www.forward.com/articles/11047/

this does not change the fact that RWers latch on to this stuff and use it as an example of how American (in this case) Jews supposedly have duel loyalties which is BS for the over whelming majority however also part of the problem is that these people are also for the most part still American citizens and use that as a political advantage my point was she almost certainly realizes this but simply does not care

[howard112211]

20. So, what she is saying is she is in favor of a one-state solution?

Grant all Palestineans Israeli citizenship. Then "Jews can live whereever they want in Jerusalem".