PA: Female prisoner of Israel beaten in custody

[ConsAreLiars]

The PA Ministry of Prisoners Affairs released a report Saturday alleging that a Palestinian woman in Israeli custody was brutally beaten in the Ramle prison after she refused to submit to a strip search.

Twenty-two-year-old Sumoud Hasan Karaja, from the central West Bank village of Saffa, was transferred from Israel's Damon prison to the Ramle facility on 8 November, lawyers for the ministry reported after visiting the woman.

At Ramle prison, the report said, a group of male and female wardens wanted to strip-search her but she refused.

When she struggled, a male warden grabbed her head covering and her neck, pushing her into the ground. She said one warden spat in her face, then the male pulled her up forcibly by the handcuffs on her wrists behind her back.

From: http://imeu.net/news/article0020090.shtml

[oberliner]

1. Where's the "brutally beaten" part?

It just says she was pushed to the group and was forced to stand up wearing handcuffs.

By the way, this person is in jail for attempted murder.

[ConsAreLiars]

2. Holyish crap, you are nothing more than totally predictable (nt)

[oberliner]

3. So is the ridiculous hyperbole in this article

Brutally beaten? Seriously?

[arcticken]

4. Sounds better that way. n/t

[azurnoir]

5. yes spitting in her face is much more acceceptable as is

jerking up by handcuffs which have her arms behind her back

[Violet_Crumble]

6. I find it both disgusting and disturbing how some don't appear to care about abuse of women....

..and when it boils down to it, it's only when it comes to Palestinian women. If it were an Israeli, there's no way they'd be trying to minimise abuse of Israeli women...

[oberliner]

8. Acceptable or not - spitting on someone is not "brutally beating" them

Nor is jerking someone up by handcuffs.

[ConsAreLiars]

7. No one is surprised by the fact that you don't regard treating a Palestinian woman this way

as brutal, just routine, commonplace and appropriate. For many who delude themselves into thinking that justifying this and far more massive slaughterings, torture and punishments of Palestinians is OK "because" it is their tribe is doing it and fealty trumps humanity, such practices MUST be seen as perfectly normal and acceptable -- so long as their team is the one doing it.

Another POV is that by doing so, by denying that "the others," for some in this forum the Palestinians, are absolutely and fully as human as those you regard as "human like you," you endanger those you see as "your side." By doing so, they degrade and dehumanize and weaken themselves.

Although the US has long had a policy of murdering and starving and slaughtering and torturing those who have opposed its status as a hegemonic power, even that monsters that control it are coming up against the reality that even the most brutally sadistic foreign policy will reach a negative cost/benefit outcome.

A waste of time responding, but go ahead and show how lame a reply you can construct.

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[oberliner]

9. Wrong on all counts

To refer to the description given as "brutally beating" is to diminish the significance of the term. Renders the phrase almost meaningless.

It would similarly be ridiculous hyperbole to call this "brutally beating" for any prisoner of any nationality in any country.

[shira]

12. You're wasting your time in yet another pretend debate....

You'll never get through to anyone who advocates only for some women's rights, and not for others...

Gaza's Women: Who Is Defending Their Rights?
http://www.hudson-ny.org/1677/gaza-women-rights

It is not easy to be a woman living under a fundamentalist Islamic regime like the one in the Gaza Strip. Over the past three years, women in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip have been facing a campaign of intimidation and terror that has forced many of them to sit at home and do nothing.

The fact that women are oppressed under radical Islamic regimes is of course very disturbing. But what is even more disturbing is the silence over abuse of women's rights in the Gaza Strip.

Has anyone heard prominent Palestinian spokeswoman Hanan Ashrawi come out in public against Hamas's repressive measures against Palestinian women? Where are local and international human rights organizations, especially those that claim to defend rights of women in the Arab and Islamic world?

Has any major media outlet in the West thought of making a documentary about the suffering of women under Hamas?

Or are they so obsessed with everything that Israel does that they prefer to turn a blind eye to what is happening in the Gaza Strip?

Has anyone dared to ask Hamas why sending women to carry out suicide bombings is all right, while it is not ok for them to walk alone on the beach or be seen in public with a man? Have "pro-Palestinian" groups in North America and Europe ever thought of endorsing the case of these women by raising awareness to their plight?

Since Hamas seized full control over the Gaza Strip in 2007, Palestinian women have been deprived of many of basic rights, such as strolling along the beach alone or smoking in public. Under Hamas, female lawyers are not allowed to appear in court unless they are wearing the hijab.

They are also barred from going to male hairdressers. A woman who is seen in public with a man is often stopped by Hamas policemen and questioned about the nature of the relationship between them.

Women in the Gaza Strip who have dared to participate in public political and social events have been repeatedly harassed by the Hamas government. As a result, many of them have been forced to stay at home out of fear for their lives.

Even Palestinian women's groups in the West Bank do not seem to care much about the conditions of women under Hamas. Have any of them thought of organizing demonstrations or campaigns in protest against abuse of women's rights under Hamas?

Women's or children's rights only matter in the middle east if it is perceived that Israel is violating them (and pretend make-believe beatings by Israeli authorities matter more than what happens to women in Gaza).

You'll find that the harshest critics of Israel here cannot be bothered to voice one bit of concern for women and children suffering under Hamas or PA rule. Attacking Israel is a sport to them.

There can be no reasoning with such people.

[Violet_Crumble]

10. Abuse of Palestinian prisoners is nothing new...

There are groups out there that monitor abuse of Palestinian prisoners, such as Addameer

http://www.addameer.org/detention/torture.html

Beatings and abuse of Palestinians isn't confined to prisoners, however. B'Tselem has a sickeningly long list of Palestinians who have been abused by soldiers and police.

http://www.btselem.org/English/Testimonies/Index.asp?TF=14

[ConsAreLiars]

11. The whole policy and practice of those seeking to drive the Palestinians from their homes and land

has been one of deliberate, relentless, and intense brutality. It is the policy toward those they take captive like this one story, and the many more that have been documented. It is the policy toward those who demonstrate against land seizures or home demolitions. It is the policy toward those who are penned up in camps in Gaza and the West Bank or driven intp refugee camps in neighboring nations.

It is no surprise those who support the strategy object to the word.