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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 07:32 PM
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14-Year-Old’s Water Pipe Blamed for Israeli Fire
JERUSALEM — A 14-year-old boy was arrested on Monday as the prime suspect in starting the largest fire in Israel’s history, a four-day inferno that left 42 people dead, devoured 10,000 acres of forest and forced Israel to request international assistance.

A police spokesman, Micky Rosenfeld, said the boy, from the Carmel area where the fire began, admitted under questioning that he had been smoking a tobacco water pipe, or narghila, and threw away a hot coal that set off the fire. He fled the scene, and without sounding any alert, went back to school, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

Two other minors who the police said were suspected of starting the fire by negligence — a 14- and 16-year-old from a Druse village in the same area — were released to house arrest on Monday. Relatives and their lawyer have denied they were involved in starting the blaze, and their connection to the third boy was unclear.

The fire, which broke out in the forested hills near Haifa in northern Israel on Thursday, was mostly extinguished by Sunday evening, with officials crediting assistance from an international fleet of more than 30 firefighting aircraft and the so-called Supertanker, the world’s largest fire-extinguishing plane.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/world/middleeast/07israel.html?src=mv
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 07:38 PM
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1. That gets
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 07:41 PM
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2. The boy is simply G_d's instrument, as are we all. nt
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 07:56 PM
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3. that's a question on the MMPI ya know n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:05 PM
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4. MMPI? nt
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:10 PM
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6. Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:11 PM
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7. Sorry, I don't believe in that.
:-)
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:09 PM
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5. In a way I feel sorry for this kid, aldeit he should have reported the fire
immediately to say the least, he will suffer from guilt for the rest of his life

on a side note there was a major wildfire in CA last year where people also died, a 9 year old was found to the cause there was talk about prosecution of some type but I have not seen any follow up on that
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:14 PM
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8. I'm sure if he could have smoked safely at home, this would not have happened.
So it's really all the Drug War's fault.

But yeah, he's just a kid. We had a 35,000 acre fire in the mountains here, started by some hikers that were trying to burn their TP, you know: "leave no trace."
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:37 PM
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9. That's one heck of a carbon footprint n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:08 AM
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12. Yeah, that's what I thought. But it's grown back a lot.
Never going to the the same though.
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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:43 PM
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10. It was probably good old fashioned patriotic tobacco in his hookah
and not that filthy subversive hippy junk. So one can't blame the drug war for that. It is just the inherent cost of freedom I suppose.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:05 AM
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11. Maybe so, I did that with cigarettes when I was a kid, sneaking one to see
what it was like. But you are ruining my drug war rant, you're no fun.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:12 AM
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13. yup I am told by one who is quite familiar with both "territories"
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 12:13 AM by azurnoir
that the hippy junk will completely "gum up" a good hookah, so best to stick with the sheesha and not ruin your pipe
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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:14 AM
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14. Ive heard that too but I'm buggered if I know why...
A hookah is basically a bong with a bit of tubing, dunno why it would work in one but not the other.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:57 AM
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15. skinnier , longer tubing and more resinous maybe ? n/t
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