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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:30 PM
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The Apartheid Wall Now Tearing through Hebron
Latest News | Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign


This week the Israeli Occupation High Court ruled to “stop work” on the building of the Apartheid Wall through Hebron until the path around Israeli settlements could be “further discussed”; however, the deceptive ruling is not changing the situation on the ground. Destruction for the Wall in Hebron started some three weeks ago around the Israeli settlement Kiryat Arba and Harsina. Some 1,500 dunums* were slated for destruction for the Wall’s path and already the Occupation Forces have razed nearly two-thirds of this. The so-called court ruling accepts that is it permitted to erect the Wall on the land already bulldozed, thus the order has not stopped anything and construction continues.

The lands being destroyed belong to four families in Hebron and are fertile with vineyards, almond, fig and olive trees; many of the olive trees uprooted were more than forty years old. Residents and land owners see the court ruling as far from a success and are certain the work on the Apartheid Wall will commence again shortly, in the meantime the building of the Wall continues on land already lost.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:59 PM
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1. Soon, the Maginot Line will be complete
And the French will have nothing to fear from Germany.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:16 PM
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2. stopthewall.org? Now THERE'S a reliable source.
Haw haw haw. ;-)
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:07 PM
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3. question
Is the Apartheid Wall tearing through Hebron, or not?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:11 PM
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9. ?
:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:19 PM
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:15 PM
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4. "apartheid" is a misnomer and a slanderous one at that.
"Apartheid" refers to racial segregation as it was practiced in South Africa. Race/ethnicity is not a required or intrinsic part of being a Jew. There are Jews of every race and ethnicity.

No race or ethnicity is restricted from being a Jew. As a result, both by definition and in fact, it is not possible that Israel practices apartheid against any race or ethnicity, when there are already Jews of every race and ethnicity.

There are Palestinian non-Jews who are citizens of Israel. They have voting rights and are represented in the Knesset. If Israel practiced "apartheid", by definition and in fact, this would not be possible. In South Africa, non-whites did not have voting rights and they were not represented in the parliament.

The security fence is for purposes of self-defense.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:23 PM
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5. Religious Apartheid Wall then ..
..so are there some Israeli Arab settlers then ???
and can Arab Muslims immigrate to Israel ???
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:30 AM
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6. This is obfuscation
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 12:47 AM by Jack Rabbit
Israeli Arabs have democratic rights in Israel proper. That's not the problem. The issues that are being addressed when using the word Apartheid have nothing to do with voting rights for Israeli Arabs.

The issues at hand have to do with the displacement of Palestinians living in the occupied territories for segregated settlements that are accessed by segregated roads. Israel itself may not be an Apartheid state, but the occupied territories are administered in a way that is similar to one.

The Wall may be to prevent attacks on Israelis inside Israel; however, the segregated bypass roads and the checkpoints between Palestinian towns are not. They are for the security of Israeli citizens living beyond Israel's borders in occupied territory.

If the GOI were really interested in protecting Israeli citizens, then Israelis citizens would not be encouraged or even allowed to live among people who don't want them there and who support a violent resistance movement. The settlements would be evacuated and their residents withdrawn to a defensive perimeter inside Israel. Then the border (or the Green Line, since it has served as a border for over half a century) would be fortified. The Wall, in fact, would be built quite a bit closer to the Green Line than it is.

The settlements had nothing to do the security of Israeli citizens inside Israel in the first place. They were and continue to be an attempt to extend Israeli sovereignty into land seized in the 1967 war. Prime Minister Begin, a man in serious need of a geography lesson, declared the territories an integral part of Israel and told the Arabs living there that they would have autonomy, but not citizenship. The Palestinians were not asked about this. They were told that this was the way it was going to be: Israeli Jews would be able to buy land in the territories and build housing where the Arabs cannot live and get to them on roads on which Arabs cannot travel.

According to B'Tselem's report on settlement policy:

Israel has created in the Occupied Territories a regime of separation based on discrimination, applying two separate systems of law in the same area and basing the rights of individuals on their nationality. This regime is the only one of its kind in the world, and is reminiscent of distasteful regimes from the past, such as the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

That is a perfectly defensible statement, use of the word Apartheid and all.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 03:00 PM
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8. Nice post
:thumbsup:

I'd also throw Yossi Sarid's recent comments in too.
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