Security Council fails to agree on condemning attack

[Scurrilous]

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/389168.html

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"Security Council diplomats failed to agree on a press statement condemning Thursday's suicide bombing of a bus in Jerusalem, which Israel called "outrageous."

Council diplomats said three hours of closed-door negotiations Thursday fell apart when Algeria, the only Arab nation on the council, insisted that any statement must also condemn the deaths of eight Palestinians in an IDF operation in Gaza City on Wednesday.

Several other council members supported Algeria, the diplomats said, speaking on condition of anonymity."

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"This attempt by Algeria to make a parallel between a clash between IDF soldiers and armed Palestinian gunmen and a suicide bombing in a bus killing 10 civilians is totally outrageous," said Israel's deputy UN ambassador Arye Mekel. "We are upset that the council did not find a way to condemn this killing of innocent civilians."

[Muddleoftheroad]

1. No surprise

The UN is no friend of Israel's and doesn't care when Israelis or Jews die.

[Blitz]

2. No surprise at all

The UN is an embarrassment.

[Forkboy]

17. I'll point these out again

I know you've seen them and just choose to ignore them,or call people who believe in the UN "iconically challenged",but what the hell...once more for your enjoyment.


Annan condemns 'horrific' suicide bombing in Israel

4 October – United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan today strongly condemned the suicide bombing which killed at least 18 people in Haifa, Israel.

Calling the attack “horrific” in a statement released by his spokesman, Mr. Annan reiterated his “utter repugnance at all acts of terror, from whatever quarter.”

The statement also called on the Palestinian Authority to do everything in its power to halt these vicious attacks, which “only harm the Palestinian cause.”

Mr. Annan also conveyed his prayers for the families of the victims.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=8449&Cr=Palestin&Cr1=

SECRETARY-GENERAL CONDEMNS ‘MURDEROUS ATTACK’ IN ISRAEL,

REITERATES CALL FOR RETURN TO DIALOGUE

The following statement was issued today by the Spokesman for Secretary-General Kofi Annan:

The Secretary-General is greatly concerned by the continuing deterioration in relations between Israelis and Palestinians. He condemns in the strongest possible terms yesterday’s murderous attack in the Israeli city of Hadera, in which six Israeli citizens were killed, as he has condemned all indiscriminate killings of civilians. The Secretary-General calls on the Palestinian Authority to take immediate and effective action against those responsible.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/sgsm8102.doc.htm

SECRETARY-GENERAL CONDEMNS TERROR ATTACKS IN ISRAEL

The following statement was issued today by the Spokesman for Secretary-General Kofi Annan:

The Secretary-General condemns today’s two terror attacks by suicide bombers near Tel Aviv and in Jerusalem, in which at least 12 people were killed and many others injured. He conveys his deepest condolences to the families of the victims and to the Government of Israel.

The Secretary-General calls on Palestinian militant groups to halt these despicable and indiscriminate actions, which not only spread death and misery but harm the legitimate national aspirations of the Palestinian people. He reiterates his insistence that both sides should fulfil their obligations under international humanitarian law to protect civilians.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/sgsm8858.doc.htm

SECRETARY-GENERAL CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACK IN TEL AVIV,

SAYS IT MUST NOT DERAIL PEACE PROCESS

The following statement was issued on 29 April by the Spokesman for Secretary-General Kofi Annan:

The Secretary-General condemns in the strongest possible terms tonight’s terrorist attack in Tel Aviv. He strongly urges Israelis and Palestinians not to let this morally reprehensible act derail the resumption of the peace process. The Secretary-General calls on all concerned to exercise maximum restraint and begin the implementation of the “road map” that will be presented shortly.

He reiterates his appeal to the Palestinians to pursue non-violent policies and urges the Palestinian Authority to make every effort to stop these terrorist acts against Israelis. The Secretary-General remains convinced that there is no alternative to a political solution of the long-standing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/sgsm8681.doc.htm

SECRETARY-GENERAL ‘DISMAYED’ BY BEIT SHE’AN ATTACK, CONDEMNS SUCH TERRORIST

ACTS AS ‘EXTREMELY HARMFUL TO PALESTINIAN CAUSE’

This is the text of a statement today by the Spokesman for Secretary-General Kofi Annan:

The Secretary-General is dismayed by the attack yesterday in the Israeli town of Beit She’an, in which Palestinian gunmen killed six Israelis and wounded many others. He reiterates his utter condemnation of such terrorist acts against civilians, which are extremely harmful to the Palestinian cause.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/sgsm8533.doc.htm

SECRETARY-GENERAL CONDEMNS 'DESPICABLE' HEBRON TERRORIST ATTACK

The following was issued today by the Spokesman for Secretary-General

Kofi Annan:

The Secretary-General is horrified by the despicable terrorist attack in the

West Bank town of Hebron that today killed 10 Jewish worshippers on their way to the Sabbath eve prayers and left many injured. He condemns this latest terrorist act against Israeli civilians in the strongest possible terms and conveys his heartfelt condolences to the families of victims and to the Government of Israel.

The Secretary-General reiterates his appeal to all Palestinian groups to stop all such acts of senseless violence, which are extremely harmful to the Palestinian cause.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/sgsm8498.doc.htm

SECRETARY-GENERAL CONDEMNS BOMBINGS IN JERUSALEM, HAIFA AS TERRORISM;

CALLS ON PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY TO BRING THOSE RESPONSIBLE TO JUSTICE

The following statement was issued by the Spokesman for Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Sunday, 2 December:

The Secretary-General is shocked and horrified by the bombings in Jerusalem and Haifa that have taken such a heavy toll of human life in the past few hours. No cause and no motive can ever justify the deliberate murder of innocent civilians. The Secretary General unequivocally condemns these acts as terrorism. They undermine those who are working on all sides for peace and justice.

The Secretary-General calls on the Palestinian Authority to take immediate and decisive action to arrest and bring to justice those responsible for these and earlier acts of terrorism.

The Secretary-General sends his heartfelt condolences to the families of all those who were killed or injured in the bomb attacks, and to the Government of Israel.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/sgsm8056.doc.htm

What part sounds like the UN "doesn't care when Israelis or Jews die."?

[cantwealljustgetalong]

18. the part where...

he keeps repetitously including that it is, (kinda like, after all, why would we even mention it otherwise), harmful to the Palestinian cause...

in any case, the lip service provided after each mass murder by all the concerned parties is really touching...really it is...

[Forkboy]

19. Damned if you do,damned if you dont

And what part of him saying that these attacks are harmful to the Palestinian cause is untrue?

[cantwealljustgetalong]

21. that was not the point...

whether it is true or untrue is going off on a tangent that derails the original point, which I won't repeat, you can just reread...

now to address your tangent, it's hardly 100% clear to what extent it is 100% harmful or 100% not harmful, or 100% true or 100% untrue, and I'd hate to think of the possibilities, if in fact, in the pathetic robotic mantras by the powers that be, it were not directed to be seen as harmful to the Palestinian cause...

[cantwealljustgetalong]

3. UN: Get Out of New York! ...

The year 2003 was a triumphant one for America. But much remains to be done to make the world a safer, fairer place. One problem: the UN. What's to be done about that nest of corruption, double standards and staggering incompetence? No point in rehashing the UN's unrelieved record of failure, which in Africa alone has cost hundreds of thousands of lives. I am not suggesting, at this stage, that the U.S. should leave the organization (or disorganization), although that may well happen in time.

What I do suggest is that the U.S. should give the UN notice to quit. When America was the leader of a successful wartime coalition--and the world wished it to continue in that role--it made excellent sense to place UN headquarters in New York. But those days have long passed. America has accepted its world-policeman destiny, and the UN is merely a minor obstacle to the successful performance of that task. The place has become a mere theater of empty rhetoric and shameless deals supporting a growing tide of anti-Semitism and racism and--let us not be mealymouthed--state crime. It is a place where near-bankrupt dictatorships can sell their votes to the highest bidder.

It is also a place where well-connected playboy diplomats from the Third World can indulge in an expense-account lifestyle in one of the richest cities on earth, ignoring the pitiful poverty of their home countries and often using their diplomatic immunity to break the law. This is an insult to the dignity of the human race.

...

Personally, I fear the UN is a lost cause, incorrigibly frivolous and corrupt and beyond reform. But such a move might conceivably give the UN the fundamental jolt it needs.

...

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/0202/029.html

edited to add paragraph/bold

[Scurrilous]

4. UN out of New York?

Nah, it'll never happen. Bush needs them playboy diplomats at the UN to bail his sorry butt out of the mess he got into over in Iraq. I guess we'll have to put up with their expense-account lifestyle a bit longer. Despite what those progressives over at Forbes have to say on the matter.

[Blitz]

5. It'll happen

And the sooner the better.

[Scurrilous]

6. It'll never happen....

...nothing more than a right-wing wet dream. As evidenced here:

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9722_UN-_Get_Out_of_NY

[Blitz]

7. What does your post have to do with your link?

Are you suggesting that LGF is a right-wing site?

If so, I suggest that you and others who are mired in that particular delusion tale a look at this post and the replies that follow in order to disabuse yourselves of that notion once and for all. While we're on your pet subject of LGF, here are two more threads that I particularly recommend:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9299

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9236

Those evil, evil right-wing LGFers.

[Scurrilous]

8. I'm sorry I offended you...

...by referring to LGF as a right-wing site. I promise never to mention them again in your presence.

BTW, I have one question. I see the acronym 'LLL' bandied about quite a bit over there. They use it in reference to Democratic Presidential candidates, their supporters, and Democrats in general. What exactly does 'LLL' mean? Is it 'Liberal Lefty Loser' or 'Leftist Loser Liberal?' Could you clear that up for me? Thanks.

[Blitz]

9. I believe there's a faq

It may answer that question and many more.

I'll expect you to live up to your promise, BTW.

[Scurrilous]

10. I will...

..discussion closed.

[Aidoneus]

11. "Loony Liberal Left" or "Loser Liberal Left"

You've obviously struck a nerve.

How dare you refer to their treasured portal as "rightwing"! I mean, just because they hate the "left", support the most rabidly rightwing causes, are blatently racist, borderline-fascistic tendencies.. that's no reason for such a slander to an obviously "liberal" page. :eyes:

[number6]

13. "UN: Get Out of New York! ..." ????

am I in a Right Wing webb site :smoke:
thot I was at DemocraticUnderground :shrug::shrug::shrug:

[Blitz]

14. What makes you think that Democrats like the UN?

If you took a vote in very liberal NYC, I think that the citizens of that fine burg would vote overwhelmingly to send the UN packing.

[number6]

15. just a misconception I got from talking to Right Winger's

who wanted to send the UN packing, right here in
Utah, the little town of Laverkin voted to ban the UN
man I didn't know this little western town was full
of Liberal Democrats. ;) :smoke:

[Blitz]

16. It's not that Utah is full of liberals

It's just that the UN gives liberals and conservatives something that they can agree about.

[MikeGalos]

20. OK. This'll surprise some people...

The UN is a tremendous value and absolutely critical to foreign relations.

The UN functions in reality in ways VERY different than what the casual observer thinks. Let's look at the three branches.

General Assembly: This is what most people think of when they say UN (Well, actually, they think the GA and SC are the same but let's skip total ignorance for the moment). People don't realize that the GA has no, repeat, NO ability to do anything. They pass lots of resolutions but they have really little to no teeth. What they really do is give a forum for government officials to make silly statements that they can broadcast on their local newscasts to show both how important they are and how radical their views are. All the while doing so in a place where their little PR move has no real costs. Without the GA, they'd have to actually do something (like attack their neighbors) that would have actual consequences.

Security Council: The SC actually DOES have the authority to carry out actions that have consequences. That's why it virtually never does. Wild speeches go to the GA and the SC members spend their time complaining on how shocked they are that their more silly proposals are vetoed. All the while, of course, knowing that they'd have never submitted them if they really had a chance to pass.

Secretariat: Here's where the UN really shines. For all the PR oriented debate in the other bodies, the Secretariat houses dozens of international bodies that coordinate everything from coordination of computer communications standards to pandemic tracking. This is the part of the UN that gets no notice and thus is where the real work gets done.

[Jim Sagle]

12. The UN ain't nuthin' but shit.