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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 07:17 AM
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Israel may paint barrier to make it more eye-appealing
http://www.maarivintl.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article&articleID=2580

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"Israel's Foreign Ministry public relations wizards have come up with an idea to tone down the damage to Israel's public image from the separation fence: paint it in gay colors.

The “colorful” idea was formulated while the members of the PR delegation, who are scheduled to face the media at The Hague International Court of Justice while it considers the barrier, toured the fence’s path and pondered how to make it more visually appealing.

Only ten of the total 200 km (125 miles) of the fence already built consist of actual, easily paintable concrete walls. Eight kilometers were built in the area of the Palestinian city of Qalqilya, the Arab-Israeli town - Baka El-Garbia - and the Israeli village of Matan. Two more kilometers of wall were put up near the village of Abu-Dis in East Jerusalem. According to the final plan for the barrier, concrete walls will be erected along 21 km.

A Foreign Ministry official said Sunday that the “Palestinians use the fence for propaganda, depicting it as a concrete wall while concrete makes up less than ten percent of it”. According to the official, “A colorfully painted barrier would be more aesthetic, resulting in less damage to Israel’s public image”.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 07:32 AM
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1. Good news! Thanx, Scurrilous.
:yourock:
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 07:36 AM
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2. Funny
"A colorfully painted barrier would be more aesthetic, resulting in less damage to Israel’s public image”.

LOL, that damage has already been done with their policy. Removing it would help, not painting it differently... :eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 08:00 AM
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:02 PM
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6. Here's a link to that photo
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040207/481/xem10102071449

"Now, this one is for the American press, so if you could just stand in front of the English anti-Israeli graffiti, that would be terrific. . . Yeah, watch out, that one's still wet. Sam just did that this morning . . . Hey, Sam!! Do we need the cute kid for this shot?? No? OK!!"
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:05 PM
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8. How do you know...
...her tears are 'make believe?' If someone is grieving (for whatever reason), and the press takes notice and photographs you, does it make your grief phony or fake?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:38 PM
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10. Suuuuure
9 photographers just *happened* to be there.

(from cheech and chong)
"gimme a hit of that,man"
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:15 PM
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25. Ok guys,here's the deal
you guys think the photo is a staged event because that's what you want to believe.

I dont think it is because thats what I want to believe.

Neither of us can know for sure,and the only thing guiding us is our own biases.

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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:07 PM
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11. You see tears?
I see no tears. How do you know that she's not laughing?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:14 PM
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12. Caption:

"Photographers take pictures of a Palestinian woman as she cries next to the 8-meter-tall wall part of the barrier Israel is building to separate the outskirts of Jerusalem from the West Bank in the village of Abu Dis."

I'm assuming she is crying because the caption accompanying the photo you linked claims she is.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:19 PM
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13. Doh!
:evilgrin:
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:23 PM
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14. Funny thing
I don't necessarily trust the caption of the very people who are staging the shot. Hell, given how obviously staged it is, that could be some AP assistant that they got to dress up like a local and stand in front of some anti-Israeli graffiti. If the shot is staged, as it obviously is, the caption carries little weight. She could be laughing.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:32 PM
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15. Well hell,why believe anything then?
This grasping at straws is humorous though.
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:45 PM
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16. What straws
The shot couldn't be more staged if it was done in a studio in Burbank. Do you deny this fact? Do you see any tears?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:47 PM
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17. Too far away to tell
at that means you dont know either.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:54 PM
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18. Oh bull...
Forkboy,when was the last time 9 photographers took your picture...

AT THE SAME TIME ?!?!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:00 PM
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19. At my wedding
last year.


Next....
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:02 PM
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20. Unless your wife is Liza Minelli......
no way.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:11 PM
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23. lol...thank God she isn't
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:10 PM
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22. YOu had nine different professional photographers at your wedding
Or are you talking about your friends and family with their personal cameras?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:11 PM
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24. friends and family
no one specified they had to be pros :)
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:15 PM
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26. Link please.
lol
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:17 PM
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27. lol
ok,that was a good one :D
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:08 PM
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21. Reporters and photographers...
...tend to run in packs. Especially in dangerous locales.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:22 PM
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28. And let us recall .....
that now famouus young "martyr",who,at the end of his funeral
fell off his strectcher and then to show how really dead he was ,
got back on the stretcher to finish the funeral service.

Maybe the SECOND greatest show on earth.
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 07:02 PM
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32. Now that is funny
I wonder if the stretcher bearer was shot and killed for the slip?
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 08:54 AM
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4. so, after all the articles ..
about the WB being de facto annexed to Israel by the wall and the wall being a so-called "land-grab", someone posts an article confirming that only a few miles of the security barrier is actual wall. The rest is easily movable and removable fence. Thanks for posting.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 08:55 AM
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5. When will it be removed?
When there are no more Palestinians living there? In 50 years?
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:27 PM
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7. Even the GOI refutes that nonsense
Keeping to official Israeli sources, and taking their word as gospel truth (which should not be done, but that is another topic):

Of the first stage (140km), 8km is a concrete wall. i.e. 5.7% is a wall so far.1

Now that alone serves to refute your point, but the trivial conclusion which should be obvious at a moments thought is if that ratio holds for the rest of the fence, roughly 20% will be a concrete wall, and those sections will mostly be located in urban Palestinian areas.

...

1. Facts and Figures of the security fence, GOI Seam Zone-Security Fence Administration Website. Note that the Hebrew is virtually the same as the english on this page (there is duplicity in the translation in other sections).
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:07 PM
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9. His point was accurate
Eight kilometers is not much out of 140. It's pretty much what we call it -- a fence.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:42 PM
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29. I often call it a 'fence'
Because I'm constantly reading 'gadar' in the Israeli press, and that has a slight infulence on my language.

As for "not much", that puts you to the right of Shinui in Israel.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:59 PM
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30. Where I come from
An amount about 1/20th of the overall total is called, "not much." How about where you live?

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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 06:06 PM
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31. I guess the view is different from Abu Dis
What do you think?
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