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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:49 AM
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Holocaust Remembrance Day
Holocaust Remembrance Day was marked Monday at 10 a.m. by a siren throughout the country, after which official commemoration ceremonies began, including the reading of names in the Knesset from 11 a.m.

Monday will be marked by services throughout the day at central locations throughout the country and at schools and other public institutions.

Local television and radio stations are devoting their schedules to programs on the Holocaust and related subjects.

The official state wreath-laying ceremony took place Monday morning at the Warsaw Ghetto uprising memorial in Yad Vashem, in the presence of the prime minister and other VIP's, which will be followed by the 'Unto Every Person There is a Name' ceremony, which will be held both in the Hall of Remembrance and the Knesset.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1082345134675
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NEVER AGAIN.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:03 AM
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1. Never again
nt
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:42 AM
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2. Never Again
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:49 AM
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3. "Unto Every Person There is a Name"
Goes for dead Palestinians also.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:06 PM
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6. Wow, only three posts to change the subject
From the Holocaust and the death of 6 million Jews to pro-Palestinian marketing. That's a classic.

Never again.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:44 PM
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:54 AM
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15. 'pro-Palestinian marketing'

there is some twisted logic

hollow words are meaningless - actions are everything

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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:20 AM
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18. I objected to the obvious thread hijacking
Of a thread that marks the death of 6 million Jews.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:27 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:57 AM
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:31 AM
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20. I've been informed by many people on this board that...
the Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust (although that's not completely true). Therefore, Holocaust Remembrance Day has nothing to do with Palestinians.
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:02 AM
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22. thanks for proving my point

this thread should have it's rightful place in GD.

This is the wrong forum

the reason it was posted here has become obvious by your statement

SO, how did 'the palestinians' lose their right to comment on Holocaust remembrance day?

B

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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:39 AM
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24. Is ex_jew a Palestinian?
If not, the Palestinians did not comment. Someone else did so in their name. It's not that actual Palestinians don't have a right to comment on Holocaust Remembrance Day, it's that Palestinian supporters who complain about Palestinians not being included in the remembrance shouldn't be surprised by negative comments. There is nothing in Holocaust Remembrance Day that requires the inclusion of Palestinians. I welcome the inclusion of Gypsies, Communists, gays, the mentally retarded and all other victims of the Nazis. I'd be willing to include the Rwandans, and the Armenians and the victims of the Khmer Rouge and others slaughtered in the Congo and elsewhere in Africa in a related day. I believe the Palestinians have their own day. You're welcome to mention it when it comes up.
BTW, you should capitalize Palestinian. It's both proper English (it's a proper noun) as well evidence of respect. It also shows you didn't use the spellcheck, which would have corrected it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:29 PM
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:16 AM
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4. Never Again.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:52 PM
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5. Let us all remember the gypsies, the homosexuals...
...ALL of the people murdered at the hands of the Nazis.

Also, the victims, past and present, of East Timor, Cambodia, Rwanda, and everywhere senseless hate and violence has triumphed over the better angels of our nature.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:42 PM
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7. you said it ...
Never Again... for

Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Russians, homosexuals, French
(Germans who resisted the Nazis)..all other eastern Europeans.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:34 PM
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11. The Holocaust Museum
Does a good job noting the various groups from priests to homosexuals who were all victims of the Nazi evil. It is something everyone should see once. Because once seen, it never leaves you.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:56 PM
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27. It covers genocide of all kinds
It has done programs on Cambodia, Armenia, etc.

It's not the kind of place you can really visit more than once though.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:48 PM
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9. Never again. n/t
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:12 PM
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12. Jews; Slavs; homosexuals; Gypies; dissidents; all Nazi terror victims.
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:55 PM
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13. Never again. (n/t)
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:48 PM
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14. Never again...
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 07:51 PM by Violet_Crumble
• Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew and international lawyer, warned about Hitler's designs in the 1930's but was scoffed at. After finding refuge in the United States in 1941, he failed to win support for any measure to protect imperiled Jews. The Allies resisted denouncing Hitler's atrocities, granting refuge to Europe's Jewry, and bombing the railroad tracks to the Nazi concentration camps. Undaunted, Lemkin invented the word "genocide" and secured the passage of the first-ever United Nations human rights treaty, which was devoted to banning the new crime. Sadly, he lived to see the genocide convention rebuffed by the US Senate. William Proxmire, the quixotic US senator from Wisconsin, picked up where Lemkin left off and delivered 3,211 speeches on the Senate floor urging ratification of the UN treaty. After nineteen years of daily soliloquies, Proxmire did manage to get the Senate to accept the genocide convention, but the US ratification was so laden with caveats that it carried next to no force...

• In 1979 President Jimmy Carter declared that out of the memory of the Holocaust, "we must forge an unshakable oath with all civilized people that never again will the world stand silent, never again will the world fail to act in time to prevent this terrible crime of genocide." Five years later, President Ronald Reagan, too, declared: "Like you, I say in a forthright voice, "Never again!" President George Bush Sr. joined the chorus in 1991. Speaking "as a World War II veteran, as an American, and now as President of the United States", Bush said his visit to Aushwitz had left him with "the determination, not just to remember, but also to act." Before becoming president, candidate Clinton chided Bush over Bosnia. "If the horrors of the Holocaust taught us anything," Clinton said, "it is the high cost of remaining silent and paralyzed in the face of genocide." Once in office, at the opening of the Holocaust Museum, Clinton faulted America's inaction during World War II. "Even as our fragmentary awareness of crimes grew into indisputable facts, far too little was done," he said. "We must not permit that to happen again." But the forward-looking, consoling refrain of "never again", a testament to America's can-do spirit, never grappled with the fact that the country had done nothing, practically or politically, to prepare itself to respond to genocide. The commitment proved hollow in the face of actual slaughter.


From "A Problem From Hell - America and the age of genocide" - Samantha Power (2003)

Never forget the victims of past genocides, especially today to the millions who died in the Holocaust, and never again to genocide, no matter where it happens or who it happens to...

Violet...
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:00 AM
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16. Never Again
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:18 AM
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17. Never again!
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:36 AM
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23. racism is bad and shouldn't be tolerated in any form
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:57 PM
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26. Never Again
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