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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 12:49 PM
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The ambulances-for-terrorists scandal
The United Nations and Red Cross have been providing cover for terrorists — literally. And American taxpayers are footing some of the bill.

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International relief officials are in stubborn denial about the abuse of their emergency vehicles and hospital credentials by terrorists. They claim the videotaped May 11 ambulance-assisted attack was an isolated incident and that the driver was forced to transport the gunmen. But this ambulances-for-terrorists program has been going on for years. And "humanitarian" workers have been willing collaborators.


According to the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at the Center for Special Studies (CSS), senior UNRWA employee Nahed Rashid Ahmed Attalah confessed to using his official U.N. vehicle to bypass security and smuggle arms, explosives, and terrorists to and from attacks. He was in charge of distributing food supplies to Palestinian refugees. Nidal 'Abd al-Fataah 'Abdallah Nizal, a Hamas activist, worked as an UNRWA ambulance driver and admitted he had used an emergency vehicle to transport munitions to terrorists.


U.N. vehicles aren't the only ones being used by terrorists. An intensive care ambulance carrying the acronym of the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) was used to deliver an explosive belt found underneath a stretcher on which a sick child was lying in spring 2002. Female suicide bomber Wafa Idris, who blew herself up in a January 2002 attack in Jerusalem, was a medical secretary for the PRCS. Her recruiter was an ambulance driver for the same organization. PRCS receives financial support from governments and organizations around the world, including the American Red Cross and International Committee of the Red Cross.

http://jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin_ambulances_for_terrorists.php3
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:05 PM
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1. interesting..
war is hell isn`t it...any publication that has jonah the whale and his merry band of thugs from town hall on the website leads me to believe that the jwr is pretty much a rightwing neocon rag. yup, war is hell and bad guys do bad things.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:43 PM
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2. adl called on The International Red Cross for an investigation
Edited on Fri Jun-04-04 01:52 PM by Classical_Liberal
into the ALLEGATIONS. I rather suspect a problem with the local hires rather than a conspiracy, to the extent the story proves true. I don't see this story in the NYT, the Washington Post, Haaretz or any other mainstream publication. I do know that the IDF firing at Red Cross and UN ambulances is one of the issues Human Rights Watch and Amnesty have specifically griped about.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:47 PM
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3. So if an ambulance is ever used in a crime in the US,
should we go ahead and ban all ambulances? Or perhaps we should just blow up any ambulance we see, just to be safe.

What's the point of this article? Is it to say that because some ambulances are being hijacked by terrorists, that we should deny ambulances to all Palestinians?

I've got a solution. How about Israel withdraws totally from the West Bank and Gaza strip and then builds their security fence. That way there would never be a need for a Palestinian ambulance to traverse Israeli territory.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 02:16 PM
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5. .
So if an ambulance is ever used in a crime in the US,
should we go ahead and ban all ambulances?.....


yes thats EXACTLY my point.....good pick up.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 02:20 PM
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7. sadly I believe you
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 01:59 PM
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17. extend the illogic to cars...
and it's obvious how bereft of thought the whole concept is...
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 01:55 PM
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16. "So if an ambulance is ever used in a crime in the US,"
if ever an ambulance is used by terrorists, from now on
we just shoot any ambulances we see with missiles,
that way were sure to get any terrorists who might
or might not be there, and if we kill any people
severely injured in accidents...well thats just
collateral damage in the war on tur-ism ...

for those who are slow that was sarcasm
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 02:03 PM
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4. I see we're still scraping the bottom of the barrel
Ms Malkin is sure a left loving prize.


For English, please press '1'
Michelle Malkin (archive)

May 19, 2004

Two politicians in Maryland are now in trouble for stating the obvious: People who work in customer service should speak English. And out-of-control multiculturalism is to blame for the failure to preserve America's common language.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040519.shtml


The liberals who cried 'didn't do enough!'
Michelle Malkin (archive)


April 14, 2004


The Bush-bashers who have relentlessly accused the president and his War on Terror team of acting like jack-booted bigots are now imperiously attacking them for acting like light-footed fumblers. This self-serving display of liberal hypocrisy has provided more idiotic entertainment than "The Nick & Jessica Variety Hour."

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040414.shtml+


A closer look at left-wing thuggery
Michelle Malkin (archive)


March 31, 2004


There is a guerrilla group on the loose in this country. But you wouldn't know it from the liberal media, which portrays the group's members as harmless activists with good hearts.

The group is called "National People's Action." The Washington Post described NPA this week as a "coalition of neighborhood advocacy groups based in Chicago." A more accurate description is left-wing goon squad. This nationwide organization is made up of professional grievance-mongers from the Bronx, N.Y, to Santa Monica, Calif. They warn: "We are black, we are white, we are Latino, we are Asian. We are old, we are young, and we are in your neighborhood!!!!!"

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040331.shtml


The Dems' 'First Responder' fakeout
Michelle Malkin (archive)


March 17, 2004


"I do not fault George Bush for doing too much in the war on terror," droned Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry at a campaign event in Washington this week.

Zzzzzz.

"I believe he's done too little."

What was that? My ears perked up slightly. Would this "proven leader" who claims he will "stand up to the special interests" talk about the need for racial, ethnic, nationality and religious profiling? Would he attack the Bush White House for appeasing the ethnic grievance industry and keeping silly Norm Mineta in his Cabinet during these deadly serious times?

Or would he propose a temporary visa moratorium on terror-friendly countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Morocco? Or how about the open-borders lobby? Would Kerry have anything to say about the continuing security threat that unchecked illegal immigration poses to the "hardworking families" he claims to represent?

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040317.shtml

THIS ONE'S A GOOD ONE DON,YOU'LL LIKE IT!

America, land of the Ashcroft-haters
Michelle Malkin (archive)


March 10, 2004


Those oh-so-compassionate liberals could hardly contain their glee upon hearing the news that Attorney General John Ashcroft is suffering from a severe case of gallstone pancreatitis.


"He has it coming. He is utterly sub-human and evil. Suffer, bastard," gloated an Internet user on the DemocraticUnderground.com Web site. "(T)he world would be better off without him," responded another writer on the forum. "I hope he is in the most severe pain a human being can suffer, and after that, I hope he remains in constant pain with no hope of relief," chimed in yet another bleeding-heart Democrat. Out in Hollywood, comedian Bill Maher echoed these unsparing sentiments during his HBO talk show monologue, speculating that Ashcroft contracted his unimaginably painful and potentially deadly illness from "wiping his (expletive) with the Bill of Rights." The audience roared with laughter.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040310.shtml


The new face of the lawless left
Michelle Malkin (archive)


March 3, 2004


I watched Gavin Newsom, outlaw-in-chief of San Francisco, on "Larry King Live" last week. With his slicked-back hair and silk tie, the 36-year-old mayor is the perfect model for the Radical Left's Extreme Makeover.

Out: Drug-addled, draft card-burning, Molotov cocktail-tossing, campus protesters of the 1960s.

In: Merlot-sipping, gay marriage license-peddling, cocktail party-throwing, pretty boys in elected office.


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040303.shtml

Howard Dean in a dress
Michelle Malkin (archive)


January 28, 2004


It's only a matter of time before we witness another Howard Dean Moment in the Democratic presidential race -- but not, I predict, from any of the Democratic presidential candidates. Skulking in the campaign background is a ticking time bombette with a volatile temper and acid tongue who makes Dean look like Mr. Rogers on Prozac.


She's the wife of front-runner Sen. John Kerry, Teresa Heinz. Formerly known as Maria Teresa Thierstein Simoes-Ferreira, the hot-headed widow of the late Pennsylvania GOP Sen. John Heinz is self-aggrandizingly known among her wealthy liberal friends and fellow environmental radicals as "Saint Teresa" (and that's pronounced Teh-RAY-zah, you ninny!).

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040128.shtml

Lee Malvo, Muslim hatemonger
Michelle Malkin (archive)


December 10, 2003


From the moment John Allen Muhammad and Lee Malvo were arrested in the Beltway-area sniper case last fall, the media and Muslim activists wanted us to believe that the serial killings had absolutely nothing to do with Islamic terrorism.

CNN downplayed Muhammad's religious conversion -- calling him by his old name, John Allen Williams, when his identity was first revealed. Malvo was cast as a clueless dupe with no true convictions. Nihad Awad of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) argued: "There is no indication that this case is related to Islam or Muslims." Chicago Sun-Times columnist Richard Roeper railed against conservative commentators such as the indomitable Mark Steyn, who had taken note of Muhammad's Islamic faith and his reportedly expressed anti-American sentiments after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20031210.shtml

For the rest of her oh so leftist writings please go here;

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20031210.shtml

You;ll find her under the heading of CONSERVATIVE COLUMNISTS.

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Seriously Don,is there ANY right wing source you wont use?

And even more seriously mods,why is someone who posts from right wing sources every time without fail,and embraces the positions spouted by these hatemongers,still allowed on DU?











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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 02:20 PM
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6. Right....so,
was there anything in the article that FACTUALLY incorrect?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 02:21 PM
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8. Didn't read it,she's a hateful racist windbag
why dont you tell us why you always post and agree with right wing sources.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 02:42 PM
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9. I actually read the articles....
and make my own judgements.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:09 PM
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10. Excellent
What might be your thoughts on the other columns I noted? Is she right when it comes to Muslims and Israel but wrong on EVERYTHING ELSE,or is she a trusted source for information on a regular basis?

I'm not going to suddenly start taking Rush seriously,and I'm not going to take Malkin seriously either.It's ridiculous that you fob this stuff off on people here and expect it to be taken seriously by anyone other than a hardcore conservative.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:42 PM
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11. i just read a post that was based on" worldnetdaily"
i`m trying to figure out why rabid right-wing news sites are credible in bringing any discussion to this website. but then again i maybe completely wrong..it`s been a long day.....
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 11:12 PM
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12. It's like saying "I know Rush is an conservative mentalcase..
...but dont you agree with him on this?"

It's a joke.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:24 AM
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13. Sorry I didnt respond sooner.
What is most interesting is that you know more about her than
I do and apparently have read more of her articles than I have...
yet you didn't read the lead article as you have stated.
Very interesting.

But I will agree with you on all levels that shes a right-wing
knucle-scraping jerk.

But I am not dogmatic....and even repukes stumble upon the truth once in a while.

For instance, you denounced Nonie Darwish yet when I asked you what
specific points you found objectionable you stated you agree with
"ALL" her points. As I did. You were not being dogmatic but you
separated the messege from the messenger.

Another instance is Thomas Friedman who I used to agree more before
than I do now and yet I am confident you would agree more with him
now than you did before....and certainly more than me.

Nonetheless, perhaps you will (eventually) decide the article above
and tell me where the article was factually incorrect. I suspect
that you may actually find none of it incorrect.

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:42 AM
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14. One of many points where the article was factually incorrect...
Attacks on troops isn't terrorism, and when combatants are killed in a conflict it's not murder....

Violet...
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:48 AM
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19. Maybe not
but still killers.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:56 AM
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20. that's what I say about the troops in Iraq
"still killers"
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:46 AM
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21. But Iraq
didn't attack the US. Evidently you don't accept the right of self-defense.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 03:26 PM
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22. Oh but I do
Iraq is defending itself.The "killers" are the US troops right now.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:26 PM
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24. and your own judgement
just happens to regularly coincide with right wing "news" sources :eyes:
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 04:01 AM
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25. So, you're saying you didn't read what you posted??
Hmmm, so it's okay to post right-wing sources as long as you don't read them. I see.:crazy:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 04:57 AM
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26. Your post makes no sense
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:04 AM
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:01 PM
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18. still allowed on DU...
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 02:02 PM by newyorican
you got me...I'm confused about the whole thing...

Not only allowed, but protected from being exposed...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 03:41 PM
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23. Soldier claims IDF smuggled troops in ambulances
http://www.maarivenglish.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article&articleID=8221

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Zohar Shapira, a service refusenik who participated in operation 'Defensive Shield', says army uses same tactic as Palestinians.

"The IDF used ambulances to smuggle in fighters during operation 'Defensive Shield' in 2002", claims Zohar Shapira, one of the initiators of the elite 'Sayeret Matkal' unit refuseniks' letter.

Yesterday, Shapira published an on-line article in which he claims that IDF soldiers used ambulances for non-medical purposes during the operation.

In his article, Shapira related an operation he took part in together with other elite troops in a village between Nablus and Jenin about two years ago. "I was surprised to discover that the elite forces belonging to the other unit taking part in the operation moved up to the houses hidden inside at least three clearly marked IDF ambulances", wrote Shapira."




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