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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:46 AM
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Yigal Amir appeals for conjugal visits with his fiance
Yigal Amir appeals for conjugal visits with his fiance

By Yuval Yoaz, Haaretz correspondent



Yigal Amir, who murdered prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, appealed Monday to the Supreme Court against a lower court ruling denying him conjugal visits with his fiance, Larissa Trimbobler.



Two weeks ago, Tel Aviv District Court denied Amir his right to conjugal visits, but the court has not yet taken a stand on his request to marry.

District Court Judge David Bar-Ophir agreed with the prosecution that conjugal visits do not fall under the category of an "absolute right," but rather constitute a perk given at the discretion of the head of the prison. Furthermore, Amir is viewed as a "security prisoner," a status which greatly limits the prisoner, and plays a significant part in the decision whether to grant him these visits or not.

The standard procedure for security prisoners is that they may be granted a conjugal visit, as long as they receive a positive assessment from the Shin Bet security services. "But," said the judge, "his assessment not only worked against our ability to overlook normal protocol, it pointed out more reasons why Amir may pose a threat, even in his incarceration."......

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/439033.html
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:47 AM
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An unholy alliance for democracy

By Amnon Barzilai

Amir's relationship is conceived in hatred and derision for democracy and is intended to sanctify at a wedding ceremony not love, but the assassination.


The debate on whether the assassin Yigal Amir should be permitted to marry and have children should focus on the boundaries a democracy sets for itself. In the media, Dr. Larissa Trimbobler has been referred to as Amir's "love" and he as her "love." Is Yigal Amir in love? Did Trimbobler fall in love with him? Titillating gossip perhaps, but it's irrelevant - the ideological question is more significant.




Is Trimbobler, who wants to marry Amir, trying to "fix" him? Has her heart gone out to a hapless individual who descended into crime because of a miserable childhood? Does she wants to compensate him with love, warmth and devotion for the degradation, insult and emotional deficiency from which he suffered?

In interviews she has given, Trimbobler provided answers to these questions. Based on her failure to condemn or express any objection to her fiance's act of murder, we may conclude there is an ideological connection at the basis of this liaison. The possibility of the state permitting this marriage is represented as an act of compassion and kindness - and is a democracy not supposed to respond to requests that originate in such values?......

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/445471.html
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:52 AM
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2. Nah, but ...
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 06:56 AM by Spinzonner
since it was only his brain and hand that committed the immoral act, imprisoning his genitals is not appropriate so they should approve removing them and sending them to his fiance for her use.
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