Arab world: 73.72% want Hamas to replace Arafat

[drdon326]

A survey of the Arab world organized by the Al-Arabia network website after the death of Yasser Arafat, showed 73.72% want a Hamas representative to replace Arafat, ITIM reported. In contrast only 0.7% expect that one of the PLO leaders will take over.

25.58% were in favor of an independent candidate.

113,107 participants from across the Arab world took part in the survey.

The organizers of the survey explained that the Hamas movement and the Islamic Jihad organization stand for the establishment of a Palestinian state on the land of historic Palestine, a concept that the PLO gave up on when the Oslo discussions began.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1101356023257

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I find that sooooo hard to believe.

[Massacure]

1. I don't see it that hard to believe.

I bet the palestinians want someone indepenant while the rest of the arab world would love to have Hamas take over.

[drdon326]

2. Why would....

"the rest of the arab world would love to have Hamas take over"?

[Massacure]

3. Because they hate Israel...

[drdon326]

4. Wait a minute.....

Are you saying they want hamas because they hate israel and want


hamas to achieve its stated goal of destroying israel?

[Massacure]

5. Yes

[drdon326]

6. Now you've gone too far......

Are you saying 73.72% of the arab world want to destroy Israel ??

[Massacure]

7. Seems like it.

[drdon326]

8. I'm speechless.

eom

[ashiebr]

9. I wish! N/T

[Jackie97]

11. What does destroying Israel mean?

Who here actually believes that destroying Israel actually means pushing the Jews who live there off into the sea? I doubt very much that it means that.

However, I would think it means that they're for a Palestinian right to return to the homes that were taken from them. The Jews would still be there. They would just have to share it with more Arabs (the way they did before the Zionist movement).

By Zionist definition, that would be "destroying Israel".

[drdon326]

12. I agree with Massacure

they have CLEARLY stated in their covenant their wish to destroy

israel and yes thay would love to push every jew into the sea.

And these terrorists scum would do it in a heartbeat.

There is no other way to read it.....you cant "sugar-coat" it by

claiming they 'really,really just want to share it'.


And it saddens me that 3 out of every 4 arabs polled in this survey

would support a TERRORIST organization.

[ashiebr]

13. "they have CLEARLY stated in their covenant their wish to destroy israel"

Well I've looked at the Covenant before and never found it very clear on anything. It's written in terribly complicated language. Maybe you could just quote the bit that states this "clearly".

However this does make you wonder about Israel's misguided tactic of funding and encouraging Hamas as a counterweight to Fatah and the PLO.

It saddens me that a sovereign state would support a TERRORIST organisation.

[drdon326]

14. Sorry.........

this discussion about the hamas covenant has posted , re-posted and
re-re-posted ad nauseum.

Sadly, they did encourage hamas at one point......Israels need for survival against their surrounding enemies bent on their destruction,
I suspect, played a major role in that decision.

Hey, help me out, in the poll above, do you think that approx. 75%
of the arab world wants hamas because they want to see an end to war or they want to see an end to israel??....I'm confused.

[ashiebr]

15. "I'm confused"

You sure are!

[drdon326]

16. LOL

Thats was good......now want to answer the question??

[ashiebr]

17. The answer is "Who knows"

I suspect they are making a polictical point that they want someone to confront Israel and it's appalling behaviour in WBG.

It's the equivalent of Israelis voting for the warmonger Sharon.

[Liberal Classic]

18. I would have thought the meaning is plain

Who here actually believes that destroying Israel actually means pushing the Jews who live there off into the sea? I doubt very much that it means that.

When masked men shout 'death to Israel' I am fairly sure they mean it.

When those same men commit murder, I become certian they mean it.

However, I would think it means that they're for a Palestinian right to return to the homes that were taken from them. The Jews would still be there. They would just have to share it with more Arabs (the way they did before the Zionist movement). By Zionist definition, that would be "destroying Israel".

The destruction of Israel as Zionist code for peace? Please forgive me, but I do not agree.

When murderous groups like Hamas talk about the destruction of Israel they mean exactly one thing: Judenfrei.

[drdon326]

21. LOL

When masked men shout 'death to Israel' I am fairly sure they mean it.

When those same men commit murder, I become certian they mean it.

Yeah...i'd say thats true.

[drdon326]

22. I can't stop reading your question....

Who here actually believes that destroying Israel actually means pushing the Jews who live there off into the sea?

and i'm amazed.....


:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:


were you actually serious?........nah,.no one can say that with a straight face.

[theboss]

29. Actually, Destroying Israel means Destroying Israel

The Middle East has never been a place for metaphor. Most of the Arab states don't formally acknowledge Israel's existence. They wouldn't even have to change their maps if Israel ceased to exist.

[IA_Seth]

24. Geez Don...Schizo much?

This sounds to me like you talking to yourself!

[Jackie97]

10. Well....

Since the Hamas has been one of the best groups to represent the Palestinian people, I can see why Arabs feel that way. Seriously, not only do they fight for the Palestinian cause thoughr bombings (which I don't condone), but they also help poor Palestinians through charity.

However, the Hamas are unwilling to comprimise. Even though I personally think the Palestinian's cause is the right one, that doesn't mean that completely insisting upon it will bring peace.

Even though the Palestinians deserve the right to return, they really need to settle for a state for the sake of peace (and they and the world can make Israel look bad for permanently taking land for it). Comprimise is the name of the game.

[Liberal Classic]

19. Goodness gracious

Since the Hamas has been one of the best groups to represent the Palestinian people...

This is evidently a usage of the word 'best' with which I am unfamiliar.

[Djinn]

20. I'm atheist and female

so I've no fond feelings for Hamas - but the plain FACT is they provide almost ALL the social services in Palestine, schools, medical clinics, assistance to widows and orphans and they are seen to be honest as opposed to the corruption found in other Palestinian organisations. THAT's why they're so popular.

It's not hard to understand even if one doesn't agree

[me b zola]

40. The "charitable" deeds provided by hamas

seams strangely akin to the "charitable" services provided by the religious right of the U.S.. Here, conservatives work to abolish every social program that the government provides while the religious zealots move in to fill those voids, thus, making a great deal of our population reliant, in one fashion or another, on them.
Hamas saw the corruption of the plo and the subsequent social and economic injustices as an opportunity to put a happy face on their murderous organization, more recruits for their treachery.
They are what they are....terrorists.

[Jackie97]

26. Best doesn't mean that Hamas is good in general...

In this case, it means that they've supported the Palestinians the most through their suicide bombings and charity to help the Palestinian people.

The bombings are wrong. I'm just trying to make a point about why some might see the Hamas as the best choice of leader to lead the Palestinians.

[Forkboy]

23. I can't wait for Arafat to die!!!!

Oh,shit.

[number6]

25. dr. don and his cheering section

do-da

die Arafat die

we hate hamas

do-da

[Liberal Classic]

27. Good way to marginalize me

I don't post here much, but I'm gratified to I'm thought of as a Don cheerleader. If it makes me easier to ignore, by all means pigeonhole me.

[number6]

34. marginalize, wouldn't think of it

to ignore, nope, I have no-one on ignore now ...;)

[drdon326]

28. Hey.....

let us remember....

"I condemn this as a waste of explosives and people"

[Forkboy]

30. Let us also remember how arousing death can be!

[drdon326]

32. Close....

that line was about TERRORISTS.

[Forkboy]

33. Whose death you find "arousing"

Still a rather disturbing statement :shrug:

[Djinn]

36. no it wasn't don

it was in regards to firing into crowds at a funeral, would you like the link?

Another poster referred to "militants" that doesn't equate to terrorists and you know fine well that those funerals crowds include plenty of civilians

[QueerJustice]

38. the use of the word militants by msm...

is synonomous with terrorist 99% of the time...

unless they are talking about a union dispute....

[Djinn]

39. no it isn't

but even if it was the funerals of high profile Palestinians tend to attract MANY people, some want to pay their respects (whether or not you agree with them holding an opinion does NOT make you a criminal and/or terrorist) some just want to be part of a crowd, some are "spectators" because it IS a spectacle and others are just caught in the throng of people on their way home from the shops.

To say that the tought of shooting into such a crowd is arousing is not something that can be defended...sorry

[number6]

35. thanx dr. don

"let us remember...."

I condemn this as a waste of explosives and people
(GOES FOR IRAQ TOO ;))

and ... "war what's it good for ABSOLUTELY NU-THIN
SAY IT AGAIN YO ALL ...." EDWIN STAR

[MidEastMan]

31. i am middle eastren and never heard that

[QueerJustice]

37. Lots of us...

are middle eastern....and have....

All jews are middle eastern...;-)

[DemFromMem]

41. I loathe Hamas as much as the next guy but...

Read today's headlines in the Israeli press and it seems clear to me what is beginning. Hamas is interested in transforming itself into a mainstream political party much as the PLO did in the early 90s (though, of course, one can argue that the PLO never gave up on terrorism). Nonetheless, suggesting a truce with Israel and a two state solution are signs that they're trying to legitimize themselves.

Interestingly, Islamic Jihad is sticking to its guns - no surrender, calling for a boycott of the elections, etc. It will be interesting to see how they react to the Hamas move.