Israeli Forces Shell Palestinian School in Khan Yunis

[catbert836]

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As a result, 6 schoolchildren were wounded as they were in the yard and a seventh one was wounded when she was inside a classroom. The children were evacuated in civilian cars to Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis. Their wounds were described by medical sources as moderate. Following this attack, the school was vacated as schoolchildren were extremely terrified. The same school was subject to a number of attacks by IOF in the past. For instance, on 25 September 2004, 11-year-old Madeline Hamdan Buraika was wounded by a live bullet in the forehead when she was sitting on her desk.
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According to preliminary investigations conducted by PCHR, at approximately 09:10 on Sunday, 12 December 2004, IOF positioned in military posts in the vicinity of "Neve Dekalim", "Gadid" and "Gan Aur" settlements, west of Khan Yunis, opened fire at Palestinian houses and schools to the east and north of the aforementioned settlement. An artillery shell hit the sport yard of an elementary school, approximately 600 meters to the northeast of the settlement.
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Palestinian educational institutions have been frequently attacked by IOF, and PCHR has documented dozens of such attacks, which injured dozens of schoolchildren while they were at school. In one of such attacks, on 12 October 2004, 11-year-old Ghadeer Jaber Mukhaimer was seriously wounded by a live bullet in the chest when she was sitting on her desk at an UNRWA elementary school in Khan Yunis refugee camp. She died at the hospital on the following day.
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http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article3425.shtml

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[dems4israel]

2. I hope someone actually does some more research on this

Electronicintifada routinly lies I hope someone can find some actual
non partisan info on the alleged incident

[pelsar]

3. start with artillary

not much to research the IDF doesnt use artillery in Gaza or the westbank as the artical specifically states.

[newyorican]

4. PCHR are not armament experts...

so they could be talking of a tank shell, which is much more likely.

Hint: This is one case where "facts on the ground" (eg. A big hole) belie attempts to say it did not happen. Once again, the exact part number and serial number of the ordanance used is not required to determine whether an incident happened at all.

[Djinn]

10. would that be like your claim

that the IDF doesn't use missiles?

[QueerJustice]

18. Guess him being in the IDF...

......qualifies him to be more of an expert than you....even tho this is hard for you to swallow...



A HERO TOO......

[catbert836]

12. You got proof of that?

Link please.

[Englander]

5. "You claim ei routinly lies..."

may I suggest posting an example of that,and then anyone on DU can examine your claim and decide for themselves?

On the use of the word "artillery",here's the Washington Post doing the same thing;

"Israel Attack Kills 10 at Gaza Protest
Army Says Shots Were Warning; Children Among Dozens of Wounded

By Glenn Frankel
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, May 20, 2004; Page A01

RAFAH, Gaza Strip, May 19 -- An Israeli helicopter gunship and a tank fired rockets and artillery shells at Palestinian protesters Wednesday as they marched toward a heavily populated neighborhood in the southern Gaza Strip. At least 10 Palestinians were killed and dozens wounded, many of them children, as explosives and shrapnel ripped through the crowd. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38959-2004May19.html

[pelsar]

7. whats the discussion?

if its accuracy, then the original artical and washington post are inaccurate as to the ordance used: tanks nor helicopters fire artillery shells...

Its doesnt matter whos says it, and no matter how loud:

(hint artillery, fires artillery shells)

[Englander]

8. It's poor use of language.....

on the part of these journos.
Although, artillery=heavy mounted guns,& tanks=heavy mounted guns,therefore tanks fire artillery shells.It would've been clearer if the article said "tank shells".

[pelsar]

9. the reason it bugs me.......

we all carry lots of extra baggage with word..especially in this conflict. When I (and I suspect many others) hear of artillary use by the IDF many of immediatly equate that with the IDF artillary barage in the lebanese war (Qana) that killed 100+

it doesnt take much to be accurate.

In fact what that does is by using the wrong terminology (which increases the "misunderstandings" be in on purpose or not) it simply demonizes that group, something soldiers do in war and something that people who dont like war try to avoid.....since we know that both sides consist of real people.....

[newyorican]

16. I'm not convinced...

as to what is 'bugging' you.

Three posts on the topic all couched in various forms of denial and rather drool discussion on terminology.

I suppose what "bugs" others dealing directly with the topic is the attack on a school, period. No one needs to "demonize" anyone who would attack a school, the act itself is sufficient proof.

On Edit: Grammar

[gottaB]

6. NPR reporter mentioned what may be the same incident

"just today five Palestinian students received shrapnel wounds when an Israeli tank shell exploded in the back yard of a school in Khan Yunis."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4224571

Is this sort of thing rare?

Children in the Crossfire

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[Forkboy]

13. He's already tombstoned

I could be wrong but telling Lithos to get his facts straight probably wasn't the wisest decision :)

[Djinn]

14. I don't think being a

fuckwit helped him much either!

[catbert836]

15. Let's keep it civil here

:evilgrin:

[Djinn]

17. beleive me this IS civil

compared to what I'm thinking while wallowing in the I/P - admittedly I could make a wharfie blush but I figure that if someone gets tombstoned then the admins probably had a similar opinion of them to myself! }(