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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:18 AM
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PLO women bus it for Abbas
"We came to show our support for Abu Mazen," said Fatma Anis, a 53-old-mother of 12. Anis had come on a minibus with a group of women of various ages from Dur-Alqareh, a small village outside Ramallah.

"I am PLO, my family is PLO and all my friends are all PLO," she said, adding that three of her six sons are in Israeli jails.

Wearing a frilly lavender and white head covering, Abeer Amarneh, 23, said that only Abbas could bring the Palestinians their goals. "Abu Mazen is the one who can bring peace and security and a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital," said the university student, who heads the PLO women's committee of Tulkarm.

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But the visit did not ruin their cheerful spirit for long. On the bus to Jenin, they were all smiles. Zuhuriyye Jaradat, 47, had read a prayer for Arafat and had heard Abbas speak. "He promised us a state with Jerusalem as the capital and to free the prisoners and the return of the refugees," she said.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1105154358463&p=1101615860782

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"I am PLO, my family is PLO and all my friends are all PLO," ...

no shit.



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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:39 AM
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1. Actually, nuthin' BUT shit.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:46 AM
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2. Now, now Jimbo....
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 10:56 AM by drdon326

After all , this is a 53-old-mother of 12 !! whose three of her six sons are in Israeli jails.

Nothing like a mothers pride.:wow:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:09 AM
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3. Hey, 3 outa 12 ain't bad!
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King Mongo Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:24 AM
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4. resistance
I'm sure that the other kids will fight against the unnecessary occupation too.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:51 PM
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6. Resistance? Is that what you call blowing up school buses full of kids?
Resistance to what? Jews existing?
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King Mongo Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:18 PM
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7. examining the different methods of resistance practiced
People end up in Israeli jails because of many reasons, such as campaigning in Jerusalem, expressing their opinons, protesting using non-violence, drawing maps, etc.

Why is it, do you think, that Palestinians resist the occupation with its expanding illegal settlements? Please be aware that Palestinians do not see the world the same way that you do. Palestinians see things differently because you are not in their situation.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:26 PM
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10. I understand that fairly well, actually. What I DON'T get is why
uninvolved third parties obsess (and that's not a slam at you, just a comment on the world in general) on this to the extent they do.

Palestinians endure about 1% of the world's total suffering, yet it generates 90% of the world's total concern. Why is that?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:45 PM
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11. Matters of power, principally...
the parties most responsible for human suffering cannot be criticized, because their critics, when major figures, have the strange and utterly coincidental tendency to be removed from office one way or another, or to be otherwise punished.

Criticizing other parties responsible for suffering would result in pressure to actually do something about it, which is troublesome for national leaders who don't actually care much.

The parties in between, powerful enough that no one is willing to actually call for action against them but not powerful enough to silence their critics, DO get criticized. The Government of Israel is one such institution.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 07:30 PM
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12. I don't know about all those other "third parties"
but I sure as hell know that I am a citizen of the "third party" country that has for decades poured billions of tax dollars, my meager contribution included, into only one side of this conflict and has no right to call itself an "honest broker" any longer.

If the Palestinians truly generated sympathy from 90% of the world's population, the balance of power there would have changed long ago. I'll agree with you that there is a LOT of lip service given to the "poor Palestinians" around the world - less in the U.S. and more in the Arab world - but it amounts to crocodile tears no matter what the location.

If more "third parties" had a GENUINE interest in peace and justice in the Middle East, there would be a lot less death on BOTH sides.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:32 AM
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5. Mahmoud Abbas camp said concerned by low voter turnout
By 3 P.M. local time, some 30 percent of Palestinian eligible to vote had cast their ballot, Army Radio report. Abbas' campaign team was, however, reportedly worried by the low voter turnout.

The polls were ordered to stay open an extra two hours until 9 P.M. following confusion at East Jerusalem post offices, where East Jerusalem residents were casting their ballots.


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A funny comment:

One of the leaders of the official U.S. observer team, Sen. Joseph R. Biden (D-Delaware), said Sunday morning that the elections appeared "well-organized."

"This could be an election back in the States so far," he said.


Haaretz

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:51 PM
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8. I wonder if Biden realized what he said
That was no compliment to this election.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:08 PM
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9. Well, I did like the irony. I'd guess he would not get it.
After all the US elections work fine from his point of view.
He gets re-elected like clockwork.
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