Brigades murder 2 'collaborators'

[drdon326]

A young Palestinian man suspected of "collaboration" with Israel was executed on Friday in a public square in the Balata refugee camp near Nablus.

Eyewitnesses said Mahmoud Mansour, 23, was brought to the center of the camp by gunmen belonging to Fatah's armed wing, the Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, and shot to death in the presence of dozens of residents after noon prayers.

They said the man died instantly after being hit in the head with at least 25 bullets. The assailants and camp residents refused to allow an ambulance to take the body to a hospital. Instead, they threw the body in a nearby dumpster.

It was the second killing of its kind in the Nablus area in the past two weeks. Earlier this month, Fatah gunmen in the Old City of Nablus kidnapped and murdered a 44-year old man whom they also accused of collaborating with Israel. The killing took place only hours before Fatah candidate and PLO Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) arrived in the city on an election tour.

In recent months, at least 13 "collaborators" have been ruthlessly murdered in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, all by Fatah gunmen.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1105759232601

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I see the legendary "palestinian judicial system" is working well.

These terrorist slugs murder innocent palestinians just as easily as they murder israelis.

No UN or ICJ investigation there.

[theresistance]

1. You have got to be kidding

"terrorist thugs" hey? In a life and death struggle, they are justified for doing away with traitors and collaborators. I find it amazing how people can sit back and pontificate about these issues. Traitors giving information to Israel is what is behind the air force and helicopter missile strikes that may or may not kill the intended target but also kill many innocent bystanders. Exactly the same thing was suffered by Fallujah throughout 2004. Collaborators, traitors and greedy people receiving cash from US for info led to American bombing, almost all of which simply hit innocent civilians. The Palestinians, as with Iraqis now, are desperate to rid themselves of traitors and collaborators. Harsh justice may be seen as a deterrent like capital punishment in US...

[QueerJustice]

2. yes....really civilized countries...

use proof,trials,court marshalls,witnesses etc etc

...Not the law of the jungle.....civilized?? NOT



:puke:

[theresistance]

3. If Palestinians had a functioning state...

an army and air force to protect the population etc, but as I said above, in the desperate struggle of the Palestinians, being hammered at will from above by American supplied bombs and missiles, there is no way I can fault them...

[QueerJustice]

4. no way to fault them...

when theyre perverted suicide bombers or savages killing their own?

I guess anythings acceptable?

[Igel]

5. I see ... it's nice to hear somebody say

that the PA has no courts. And presumably no jails .. or police.

Helps explain why Abbas is so powerless to rein in the various thugs.

So, what exactly *does* the PA do?

[Violet_Crumble]

6. Uh, the Palestinians don't have a functioning state...

And attempting to make out that PA security forces are functioning arms of the PA, rather than the chaotic and disorganised things they are is pretty misleading...

Violet..

[Igel]

8. The Palestinians don't have a state at all,

and what they have isn't fully functioning. Agreed. But it doesn't take a fully functioning state to have rudimentary courts, or keep private militias from implementing their own.

I'm in favor of trials, due process, availability of a sound defense, etc. They can have elections judged by Carter to be fair and free (even though numerous elections folk resign because of pressure from Abbas et compagnie), they should be able to have courts.

But they do have courts, after a fashion, and prisons. And if the "PA security forces" aren't actually part of the PA, isn't it time to drop the misleading "PA" from their description? They'd save millions from their budget, no doubt. At the same time they can stop paying all the various security apparatuses, since they obviously also don't actually work for the PA. More millions saved.

It strikes me that while we've been hearing complaints about private militias and warlords in Afghanistan, we've been ignoring the warlords and private militias in Palestine. Seems like if the PA wanted to be have pretensions to being a respectable government, the first thing I'd expect them to do is to go to the UN or some ally for help in dismantling them. And not defend them.

But, that's right, Abbas probably wants to live.

[Violet_Crumble]

7. Yeah, so much for France being civilised...

After all, collaborators were treated incredibly harshly in Europe during and after the war, and in many cases there was no trial. Considering that collaborators can be seen as contributing to the misery of their own people, for someone to suggest that there must be trials and nicey-nice is showing a complete lack of comprehension of war-time situations...

btw, really civilised countries don't occupy another people and build illegal settlements over their territory. Puke on that...

Violet...

[Igel]

9. If it's truly wartime,

why are we pussy-footing around with complaints of excessive force and the like? It's war. But it's considered war only when it suits one side.

As far as I know, the collaborators would have been defended by the Vichy government. After all, Vichy France was collaborationist.

This actually raises an interesting question (ok, interesting in the rhetorical sense): Would the PA defend the "collaborators" or try them? If they defend the collaborators, and find there's nothing culpable in their actions, it means the PA would at least passively allow the various Palestinian militias to be opposed. If it tried the "collaborators", it means the PA would be defending Al-Aqsa M.B., Hamas, IJ, etc.

Sort of a litmus test, isn't it? No wonder the PA suddenly becomes proudly, defiantly, infinitely ... impotent.

[QueerJustice]

12. France???

Civilised???

I agree with you.....

[drdon326]

11. Un.believe.able.

so you feel that extra-judicial murder is A-OK with you.....How do you know hes guilty??

Sad you favor the the "judgement" MURDER by al-aqsa over a legal fair trial.

Never thought i would see that on du.

[Darranar]

16. Out of curiosity...

do you care when Israeli assassinations are extra-judicial?

[Violet_Crumble]

17. kick...

n/t

[newyorican]

10. *yawn*

More selective outrage. B-O-R-I-N-G...zzzzzzz :boring:

[drdon326]

14. Thanks....

appreciate you stopping by....dont be a stranger.

[pelsar]

15. no outrage...

but as we look over at the palestenian society, that is destined to be our neighbor, we definitly want to know whats going on. We dont need a "wild kingdom" where the rule of the gun is what counts. (not that we care, but it would probably spill over to our side of the border).

The whole idea of the PA was that it was to come, set up a state type apparatus and prepare for statehood. Part of that process includes working courts, a rule by law etc.

granted their various security forces are mixed in with jihadnikim, and who knows to whom each faction is loyal to these days....but that is the palestenians doing. It is their security forces, they designed them, they are responsable for their own. (Yes I've used the "they" word, for societies are responsable for the actions of those within their society).

Killing of "collaboarators" is not new, but nor should it be accepted by the PA-that is the litmist test, not that it happens but that whether its accepted or not.....

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