Dagan: Egypt, Syria have nuclear programs, as well as Iran

[newyorican]

The head of the Mossad intelligence service, Meir Dagan, warned Monday that there are signs that several Middle East states other than Iran - including Egypt and Syria - are at varying stages of development of nuclear programs.

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"Iran is the problem of the Middle East," Peres said.

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"It is the center of terrorism in the Middle East. It is trying to create a nuclear option with a religious coloration."

But Peres cautioned against Israel taking on the burden of confronting Tehran.

"The Iran issue is a global one. Let the world conduct the war. How much do we need to take upon ourselves."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=531273&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

Hmmmm....I thought Iraq was the problem....and a "nuclear option with a religious coloration"? That's not like a Jewish State having the bomb, is it?

Either way, it appears the neocons (deceptocons) have their new marching orders. Somewhere George Tenet is jumping up and yelling, it's, "A SLAM DUNK!"

[DELUSIONAL]

1. Israel also has nuclear weapons . . . . . . . . . .

[newyorican]

2. But...

That's not a "nuclear option with religious coloration"...or is it?

I guess that all depends on how the bomb is painted?

[IndianaGreen]

4. As long as it is American blood that it is being shed...

Meir Dagan and the rest of the Likud cutthroats could care less how many countries Bush attacks in his Messianic war against infidels.

[DELUSIONAL]

5. Many non-Americans see the Israelis as terrorists

and they blame the US for the actions of the Israeli Army in the occupied territory.

Dropping a 500 pound bomb on a home is terrorism to the people who were peacefully going about their business of living.

Destroying homes is terrorism to the people who lost their homes.

So now we are being told that Syria, Egypt and Iran are the hot beds of terrorism -- and so now what -- drop bombs on these countries?

Or do the Boykins of the world -- want to use the mini nukes -- here and there where ever the non-white people live?

(You all remember General Boykins -- wearing his uniform and talking about crusades in a "christian" church.)

I do know that many fundies want this whole region to "explode" -- they seem to think that Jesus needs a blood bath before he "returns" to bring the faithful home.

Amazing how the religious extremist want to eradicate each other. They all sound the same. The other guy is always the terrorist.

[QueerJustice]

8. is Israel a country of...

``white people?`` thats news to us sepharadic Jews and Falashas and Yemeni and morroccon jews etc etc....

[DELUSIONAL]

12. Of course there are non white Jews --

but many fundies believe Jews to be Europeans -- white Europeans Jews.

Drawings and images of Jews by fundies (books published by fundies) -- show white European appearing individuals. That's why I mentioned the Boykin connection.

[sabbat hunter]

28. but according to racists

jews arent white.

and lets face it many fundies are covert if not overt racists.


david

[QueerJustice]

7. is Peres a Likud cutthroat too....

I never knew Meir Dagan had a party political affiliation....

....source please? Enlighten us all.......

[rooboy]

3. This sounds like we need to de-nuke the ENTIRE middle east...

starting with the nations we KNOW for certain have nukes.

[IndianaGreen]

6. De-nuking begins at home!

The reason so many countries are flocking to WMDs is because they are the only deterrent to an American attack. Which sane person would want their country being turned into another Iraq by American bombs?

We must work to reduce and eliminate our own stockpile of WMDs, and we must do so while we work to demilitarize the entire Middle East.

[QueerJustice]

9. Let me guess?

Starting with Israel right? ;)

...once apon a time.........

........and we all lived happily ever after......

[newyorican]

10. I believe IG lives in the USA...

...that would logically be the "home" to start "de-nuking".

Damn logic...

[QueerJustice]

11. your right...

probably should of been the reply to post #3.....

[Carlos Martillo]

13. Doesn't any country have a right to these weapons?

Those weapons were the best guarantee that the Cold War never turned into a "Hot" War.

[QueerJustice]

14. No

If you want to ensure your own survival you must do everything possible to prevent your enemy (especially your unstable dictatorship type of enemy) from obtaining THIS weapon.

It has nothing to do with equality or ``rights`` but just strategic advantage and survival...The aim is not to level the playing field here...

[Darranar]

15. A question...

Do you think that the US would ever, in a situation where its survival was not at stake, use nuclear weapons - say, if they would protect it from descending into near-irrelevance?

[QueerJustice]

16. of course it depends on whos president at the time....

[Darranar]

19. That is not an answer. That is a dodge...

My question included the word "ever" for a reason.

Rephrasing the question, do you think the American people would ever elect a president that would be willing to do it at a time when the situation might arise?

[QueerJustice]

21. yes of course

[Darranar]

22. So do you think the US should disarm its nuclear arsenal? n/t

[QueerJustice]

23. no...I think the USA

should remain the superpower one and only...rather the USA than Iran

[Darranar]

25. There we disagree...

If Iran were the superpower, I would be against the US having nukes, for pretty much the same reasons I have the opinions I do now.

I am opposed to nuclear war. Therefore, I oppose any nation likely to have its survival or crucial interests threatened having nukes, because in those situations they might be used. My preference would be universal disarmament, and that would have to be done by the more powerful nations in order to stop nuclear proliferation through an international treaty. The question, of course, is how to effectively enforce that treaty.

Decentralization of power from any single state, and perhaps transfer of power to some sort of democratic global government, is far wiser than trusting in the destructive and waning rule of the current superpower.

[QueerJustice]

24. what does it mean at the end of a post ``n/t`` btw?

I can not work it out.... thanks in advance....serious question here.....

[Darranar]

26. n/t = no text, like this post. n/t

[QueerJustice]

27. good

thank you...just could not work it out...some 400+ posts later :)

[newyorican]

17. In the present day...

a working nuclear option is the only guarantee against having the 82nd Airborne landing on your doorstep.

Any country in the cross-hairs of the neocon raving nutters could be easily convinced that their survival depended on such a deterrence.

Welcome to the 21st Century.

[Darranar]

18. Which is precisely why they should be prevented from getting them...

if the neocons in power act especially stupidly, which should surprise no one, we could end up with nuclear war.

[QueerJustice]

20. exactly what I said...

in post #14