PA claims Israel selling 'carcinogenic' juice

[drdon326]

Israel has been flooding the Palestinian market with carcinogenic juice and "suspicious" computers used by its Defense Ministry, the Palestinian Authority claimed Tuesday.

Such allegations, which were common under Yasser Arafat's rule, have resurfaced in recent weeks in the Palestinian media.

PA officials have also accused Israel of dumping toxic chemical waste in some areas in the West Bank with the intention of causing severe damage to the health of Palestinians.

Last month, PA-controlled newspapers claimed that Israel was using wild pigs to destroy crops and agricultural farms in the West Bank. The papers claimed that settlers and IDF soldiers were seen setting loose many wild pigs near Palestinian villages as part of a campaign designed to destroy the Palestinian economy.

A senior official in the Prime Minister's Office said that with these types of allegations, the PA was resorting "to the same types of lies Yasser Arafat used to spread."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=111871554069

.......................................................

HMMMM.....how to make friends and influence people.

DOUBLE-SECRET CARCINOGENIC JUICE ?

[not systems]

1. Coca-Cola's 'toxic' India fertiliser

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3096893.stm

Waste product from a Coca-Cola plant in India which the company provides as fertiliser for local farmers contains toxic chemicals, a BBC study has found.

Dangerous levels of the known carcinogen cadmium have been found in the sludge produced from the plant in the southern state of Kerala.

...


http://dchealth.dc.gov/news_room/release.asp?id=290&mon=200504

DOH Issues Health Advisory on Lead in Candy Imported from Mexico

(Washington, DC) Gregg A. Pane, MD, Director of the District of Columbia Department of Health (DOH),today issued a health advisory that lead has been found in products imported from Mexico and marketed as food seasonings, but consumed by children as candy.

Several of the lead-tainted products – Lucas Limon, Super Lucas, Lucas Acidito, and Lucas Limon con Chile – are produced by Lucas candies, a subsidiary of candy maker Mars, Inc. The powdered candies are packaged in a shaker container. Some children pour the powdered candy into their mouths in a practice called “waterfalling.”

...


It is not very hard to believe that juice could be adulterated.

Independent testing should be done.

If it was being done on purpose or by accident is a whole different
question than if it could be true.

[Igel]

8. And the infant formula in the news last year, the stuff

that triggered irreversible damage because it was missing some vitamins ...

Not very hard to believe that it could have been done on purpose. After all, those Germans ...

And that's an instance in which we actually had some facts.

Geesh.

[newyorican]

2. The mediocre birdcage liner ...

is resorting to an age-old technique of mixing some truth and some falsehood in an attempt to make it all seem false.

It is a common practice in this forum.

In this case it's "carcinogenic juice" (unverified) and "suspicious computers" (unverified but probable).

Then there is this: Israeli settlers poisoning our sheep, say West Bank farmers - A story which the Israeli police are investigating into and there is some physical evidence to the claim.

You often see much umbrage at the very mentioning of "poisoning wells" (documented by Israeli Historians <1> ). It is often mentioned in the same breath with the old blood-libel of using childrens blood for pastries or some such nonsense (absolutely false). The intention is to negate the validity of the actual documented actions by lumping them together with false allegations.

P.S. - When the tricks are well-known, they are impotent.

<1> Uri Mileshtin, an official historian for the Israeli Defense Force, has written and spoken about the use of bacteriological agents. According to Mileshtin, Moshe Dayan, a division commander at the time, gave orders in 1948 to remove Arabs from their villages, bulldoze their homes, and render water wells unusable with typhus and dysentery bacteria.

Mileshtin was quoted by the Israeli daily, Hadashot, in an article published August 13, 1993. The writer, Sarah Laybobis-Dar, interviewed a number of Israelis who had knowledge of the use of bacteriological weapons in the 1948 war. Mileshtin said bacteria was used to poison the wells of every village emptied of its Arab inhabitants.

[Colorado Blue]

3. How interesting.

I went to the IDF websites and did a search of their archives. No such person emerged from the search.

Perhaps a link to the original article would reveal this story so we all could appreciate it?

Now, there are abundant links RUMORING this story, but all seem to circle back to the same place, a story by a person named Giladi. I believe somebody posted this same story once in an attempt to discredit the history of the expulsion of the Iraqi Jewish community, which alas, has been heavily documented in the real world.

One link I found had a BIG PYRAMID WITH AN EYE on it, a la "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." No doubt this site is notable for its objectivity and historical truthfulness.

Other sites featuring the Giladi story have titles like "israelstateterrorism.com", others seem to be Palestinian.

Still another site which carries the story, Americans for Middle East Understanding, featured the following person on its National Council: Paul Findley.

Imagine my surprise! To find this story published on an extremely antiIsraeli website! With a certain extremely rightwing Senator, who the good people of Illinois had the EXCELLENT sense to get rid of, on its board.

"P.S. - When the tricks are well-known, they are impotent." Indeed.

Meanwhile, I haven't been able to find ANY independent corroboration that Mileshtin or Sarah Laybobis-Dar actually exist.

[Englander]

5. D'oh!!

Uri Mileshtin= Uri Milstein.

'DR. URI MILSTEIN:
"ISRAEL'S MOST CHERISHED
AND HATED REVISIONIST MILITARY HISTORIAN"

Dr. Uri Milstein is the most active famous Israeli military historian. He himself loves to define his work as behaviorism. He is the most known authority on the Israeli War of Independence and the era in which around fifty years ago Israel was established (May 14, 1948). Dr. Milstein (Dr. M.) is also an expert on Israel's many wars and he published many books and leading articles. He is also a philosopher and a poet.'

http://www.jewishpost.com/jp0209/jpn0209a.htm

Sarah Laybobis-Dar= Sara Leibovich-Dar.

Here's an article from Haaretz,note the name of
the author;

'Taking care of family business
By Sara Leibovich-Dar

In this strange and unsentimental world, there are also some Israelis who have business ties with the bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia. As in the United States, those with such links to the `Saudi Rockefellers' don't see how the September 11 terror attacks have anything to do with good business

On June 25, 1996, the Khobar Towers outside Dharan, Saudi Arabia were blown up. Nineteen American soldiers were killed; 515 people were injured, among them 214 American military personnel. The explosion was attributed to people operating at the behest of Osama bin Laden. In an ironic twist, it was the bin Laden family's construction company that won a $150 million bid to renovate the American base.

Osama bin Laden had 53 brothers and sisters. Three have died. The remaining 50 control a huge company - the Saudi Bin Laden Group, which employs 36,000 people in 30 countries. The company, estimated to be worth $5 billion, has business ties with major international corporations like General Electric, Unilever, Motorola, Schweppes, Citigroup and Bank HSBC. '

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=86575&contrassID=3&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=0


__________________________________________________

Concerning the '93 Hadashot article,it is mentioned here;

'The Non-Proliferation Review
Fall/Winter 2001, Volume 8 • Number 3
Abstracts

ARTICLES

Israel and Chemical/Biological Weapons: History, Deterrence, and Arms Control
by Avner Cohen

In April 1948, David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first prime minister, began recruiting East European Jewish scientists to work on unconventional weapons and other projects. A 30-year old epidemiologist and colonel in the Soviet Army named Avraham Marcus Klingberg was among the first recruits. Klingberg became one of Israel's leading scientists in the area of chemical and biological weapons (CBW). He helped found the Israel Institute of Biological Research (IIBR) in Ness Ziona, a dozen miles southeast of Tel Aviv. Decades later in 1983, Klingberg, was secretly arrested, tried, and convicted as a Soviet spy. The subsequent disclosure of the Klingberg espionage case, the impact of the 1991 Gulf War, and revelations about the Iraqi CBW program, have aroused public curiosity and speculation regarding Israeli CBW capabilities. Yet details about Israeli CBW programs--their history, strategic rationale, and technical capabilities--remain shrouded in secrecy.

In this article, Dr. Avner Cohen of the University of Maryland attempts to penetrate the "black box" of the Israeli CBW programs. Using open sources, he recounts the evolution of Israeli attitudes and perceptions of non-conventional weaponry. Cohen traces, decodes, and interprets Israeli history, attitudes, and current capabilities in the area of CBW, especially biological weapons. Cohen examines Israeli CBW policy in the broader context of Israeli defense policy, deterrence, and arms control, vis-à-vis both Iraq and other hostile states in the region. Cohen concludes with a consideration of the Israeli approach to CBW arms control and disarmament, and analyzes how accession to the Biological Weapons Convention and the Chemical Weapons Convention would affect Israeli security and economic interests.'

http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/npr/vol08/abs83.htm#cohen

The Avner Cohen article is a pdf,and 'secured',so I can't
copy any text - the Leibovich-Dar article is mentioned
on page 30;

http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/npr/vol08/83/83cohen.pdf

Both the Cohen article & the Leibovich-Dar articles
are used as sources here;

'>snip

In early 1948, Alexander Keynan, a graduate student in microbiology and the leader of a small Haganah (the pre-state Jewish militia) group of students from the medical school of the Hebrew University, lobbied General Yigal Yadin, the Haganah operations chief, to establish a new unit within HEMED to be devoted to BW. Yadin and Bergmann gave their blessing, and Ben-Gurion needed little persuasion to approve it. On February 18, 1948, by order from Yadin, Keynan left Jerusalem for Jaffa, where he set up his new unit. Soon the new unit was named HEMED BEIT.<3>

The creation of HEMED BEIT was controversial from the outset. Tight secrecy characterized everything related to the activities of HEMED BEIT during the 1948 war. The biological unit was insulated and isolated, physically and organizationally, from all other HEMED units. To this day, all archival material relating to HEMED BEIT is classified, hence, unavailable to scholars. But rumors about secret BW operations in Palestinian villages and towns have persisted for years.<4>

It is believed that one of the largest BW operations was in the Arab coastal town of Acre, north of Haifa, shortly before it was conquered by the IDF on May 17, 1948. According to Dr. Uri Milstein, an Israeli military historian, the typhoid epidemic that spread in Acre in the days before the town fell to the Israeli forces was not due to wartime chaos but rather the result of a deliberate covert action by the IDF--the contamination of Acre's water supply.<5>

Then, on May 23, 1948, Egyptian soldiers in the Gaza area caught four Israeli soldiers disguised as Arabs near water wells. A statement issued by the Egyptian Ministry of Defense on May 29, 1948, stated that four "Zionists" had been caught trying to infect artesian wells in Gaza with "a liquid, which was discovered to contain the germs of dysentery and typhoid." The four Israelis were put on trial, convicted, and executed by hanging three months later.<6>


<4> Sara Leibovitz-Dar, "Haydakim Besherut Hamedinah" , Hadashot, August 13, 1993, pp. 6-10.
<5> Cohen, "Israel and Chemical/Biological Weapons," p. 31-33.
<6> Thomas J. Hamilton, "Arab Assails the Idea of Minority Shifts," New York Times, July 24, 1948; see also Leibovitz-Dar, "Haydakim Besherut Hamedinah."
<7> In 1993, however, when Israeli journalist Sarah Leibovitz-Dar asked the commander of Gaza operation whether the soldiers had been sent to gather intelligence or on a poisoning mission, he refused to respond. "You will not get answers on these questions," he said angrily. "Not from me, and not from anyone...." Leibovitz-Dar concluded that many people knew something about these operations; it was one of those open secrets that over time becomes a national taboo. Yet both participants and later historians chose to avoid the issue. See, Leibovitz-Dar, "Haydakim Besherut Hamedinah."

http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/Israel/Biological/

[Colorado Blue]

7. Thank you for your efforts. However, I believe more of the

article on weapons should be quoted, as the important parts are left out of your post, including the fact that NO PALESTINIAN RECORDS EXIST to confirm the use of such weapons, and that all WWII combatants had such weapons; and that in the days just after the Holocaust, with another promised by the Arabs, and subsequently, such weapons would have been regarded as doomsday weapons - weapons of absolute last resort.

From the article you provided, which, though well constructed, at best still provides rumor, speculation and conjecture:

"It is worth noting that no Palestinian references exist alleging that the epidemics in Acre had resulted from Israeli sabotage. The absence of Arab reports on this incident may suggest either that the "bacteriological warfare" campaign, if it occurred, yielded limited results, or that in the chaos of the war the Palestinian refugees were unaware of the campaign. Also, if the BW operations were aimed primarily at preventing the return of the Palestinian population to their deserted villages, as Milstein claims, this could explain the relative lack of evidence of such operations.

Ultimately, however, the creation of HEMED BEIT must be understood, and judged, in the context of its time. It took place only three years after the end of World War II, at a time when the Zionist movement had just started to grapple with the devastating blow the Jewish people had suffered in the Nazi Holocaust. As a matter of historical context, every major World War II combatant had a BW program.<8>"

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

[Name removed]

10. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Colorado Blue]

12. Well, actually...

didn't a certain person recently chastise ME for not publishing entire articles?

That being the case, I thought I'd mention that key paragraphs were sort of missing:)

I did refer to the copyright situation at the time.

What's good for the goose, OK?

[Englander]

11. Thank you for the appreciation....

Finding what you're after on the internet
is dead easy,when you're using Mozilla Firefox,
and you know what you're looking for.

____________________________

Another report,that uses the NYT article and
Milstein as a source for the Acre typhoid story;

'Bioterrorism and Biocrimes: the Illicit Use of Biological Agents in the 20th Century, updated April 2001. By W. Seth Carus

Page 87 -
Case 1947-01: “Zionist” terrorists, 1947-1948
On July 22, 1948, the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee submitted a thirteen-page report to the
United Nations accusing Palestinian Jews of using biological agents against Egypt and Syria. According to the
document, “For several years the Zionists have planned and prepared for the use of bacterial warfare. To that
end, they set up laboratories in Palestine. The Jews plan to use this inhuman weapon against the Arabs in the
Middle East in their war of extermination.” The report contended that there was “some” evidence to link
Palestinian Jews to cholera outbreaks in Egypt in November, 1947, and in Syria “about February, 1948.”419

In addition, the report noted that on May 28, 1948, the Egyptian Ministry of Defense issued a
communiqué claiming that the Egyptian military had captured four “Zionists” who were attempting to
contaminate wells around Gaza with “a liquid which was discovered to contain the germs of dysentery and
typhoid.” The Palestinian Arab Higher Committee Report claimed that one of the perpetrators confessed to the
plot, which the Egyptian government planned to communicate to the International Red Cross. 420 According to
another source, two Israeli soldiers were involved in the plot: David Horeen and David Mizrachi. Both were
caught by Egyptian forces in May 1948, and were hanged three months later. This account indicates that to
Rachel Katzman, Horeen’s sister, said, “I met one of his commanders in a lecture in Jerusalem. I asked him
whether my brother had really attempted to poison wells. ‘These were the weapons we had,’ he said, ‘and
that’s that.” This account also claims that the Israelis poisoned the water supply of the Arab town of Acre,
causing a major outbreak, and other Arab villages, to prevent the villagers from returning, citing military
historian Uri Milstein as a source.421

It's a 220 page pdf;
http://www.ndu.edu/centercounter/Full_Doc.pdf

About the author;

'Dr. Seth Carus
Deputy Director
Distinguished Research Professor
Contact Dr. Carus

Dr. Carus is a Distinguished Research Professor at National Defense University and Deputy Director of the Center for Counterproliferation Research. His current work focuses primarily on issues related to biological terrorism, biological warfare, the Department of Defense's role in consequence management, and homeland defense. Prior to joining NDU, he worked at the Center for Naval Analyses. He served for three years on the policy planning staff in the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy. His publications include a working paper, Bioterrorism and Biocrimes: The Illicit Use of Biological Agents in the 20th Century, "The Poor Man's Atomic Bomb"? Biological Weapons in the Middle East (January 1991), The Genie Unleashed: Iraqi Biological and Chemical Weapons (July 1989), Ballistic Missiles in the Third World: Threat and Response (1990), and Cruise Missile Proliferation in the 1990s (1992).'

http://www.ndu.edu/centercounter/prolif_staff.htm

[Coastie for Truth]

13. What do lawyers, environmental engineers, industrial

toxicologists, and military CBR defense techs have in common?

If you have one -- you need ten; and if you have ten you need one hundred. They proliferate like rabbits.

[Coastie for Truth]

23. You made me do some research - and spend some time

I had to forage around the local university libraries to find:

1. Bioterrorism and Biocrimes: The Illicit Use of Biological Agents Since 1900 by W. Seth Carus, et al

2. The Plague Makers: The Secret World of of Biological Warfare by Wendy Barnaby (Cited in Carus' book in the section on the "Zionist cholera").

I also checked (read)

1. Hutin et al, A large cholera outbreak in Kano City, Nigeria: the importance of hand washing with soap and the danger of street-vended water. J Water Health. 2003 Mar;1(1):45-52.

2. US CDC, An outbreak of norovirus gastroenteritis at a swimming club--Vermont, 2004. MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep. 2004 Sep; 53(34);793-5.

3. US CDC, Cholera epidemic associated with raw vegetables--Lusaka, Zambia, 2003-2004. MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep. 2004 Sep 3;53(34);783-6.

4. Haddock et al., Abstract Cholera control on Guam, 2000.
Pac Health Dialog. 2002 Sep;9(2):190-2.

5. US CDC, Cholera epidemic after increased civil conflict--Monrovia, Liberia, June-September 2003. MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep. 2003 Nov 14;52(45):1093-5.

6. Collins, Abstract Vulnerability to coastal cholera ecology.
Soc Sci Med. 2003 Oct;57(8):1397-407.

7. Colwell et al., Reduction of cholera in Bangladeshi villages by simple filtration, Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2003 Feb 4;100(3):1051-5. Epub 2003 Jan 14.

and about a dozen more.

Point 1

Both Carus and Barnaby do not confirm an actual cholera outbreak. They confirm a report of one, without any backup clinical or pathological data.

Point 2

Cholera thrives in the unsettled conditions of warfare, earthquake, tsunami, hurricane, refugee camps, etc. It is not possible to rule out or rule in CBT, nor is it possible to rule out or rule in deliberate action.

Take you choice.

[Englander]

25. Firstly, I did not 'make' you do some research...

that was your choice.

The book you mention;

1. Bioterrorism and Biocrimes: The Illicit Use of Biological Agents Since 1900 by W. Seth Carus,

Isn't that the exact same publication that I've
provided a link to in post 11?

There's no doubt that there was a cholera epidemic
in Egypt in 1947;

'World Health Organisation
History of WHO and International Cooperation in Public Health

>snip

1945 United Nations Conference on International Organization in San Francisco unanimously approves a proposal by Brazil and China to establish a new, autonomous, international health organization.
1946 International Health Conference in New York approves the Constitution of the World Health Organization (WHO).
1947 WHO Interim Commission organizes assistance to Egypt to combat cholera epidemic.
1948 WHO Constitution comes into force on 7 April (now marked as World Health Day each year), when the 26th of the 61 Member States who signed it ratified its signature. Later, the First World Health Assembly is held in Geneva with delegations from 53 Governments that by then were Members.'

http://www.who.or.jp/GENERAL/history_wkc.html


'Robert Allan Phillips Obituary
The following is an excerpt of an obituary of Dr. Phillips published by the New York Times on Tuesday, September 21, 1976.

Dr. Robert Allan Phillips, whose research led to therapies that helped save the lives of hundreds of thousands of cholera victims, died yesterday at Clark Air Base in the Phillippines. He was 70 years old.

Dr. Phillips, a leader in international public health, retired from the Navy Medical Corps in 1965 as captain. Before that, he served as commanding officer of Naval Medical Research Unit 2 in Taipai, Taiwan. In the last five years, Dr. Phillips had conducted research on the problems of nutrition in the developing world. He remained an active researcher until his death. The cause of death was not disclosed, but he was known to suffer from chronic liver disease.

After working as a physiologist at the Cornell University Medical School and at the Rockefeller Institute, Dr. Phillips lived abroad. Dr. Phillips was born in Clear Lake, Iowa, and graduated from Iowa State University before earning his MD degree from Washington University in St. Louis in 1929. He joined the navy in 1940 and stayed after World War II. When he was commanding officer of the medical research unit in Cairo from 1947 to 1949, Dr. Phillips began applying his interest in the physiology of the gut to the problem of cholera. He recognized that dehydration was the basic problem of cholera, and when he moved to Taiwan, the embarked on an imaginative research program of simultaneously treating and studying victims of intestinal disease, which is caused by the toxic effects of a bacterium called vibrio cholera.

http://www.laskerfoundation.org/awards/obits/phillipsobit.shtml

'A legacy in 20th-century medicine: Robert Allan Phillips and the taming of cholera.

Savarino SJ.

United States Naval Medical Research Center, Silver Spring, MD, 20910, USA.

The legacy of Captain Robert Allan Phillips (1906-1976) was to establish effective, evidence-based rehydration methods for the treatment of cholera. As a Navy Lieutenant at the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research (New York, New York) during World War II, Phillips developed a field method for the rapid assessment of fluid loss in wounded servicemen. After the war, he championed the establishment of United States Naval Medical Research Unit (NAMRU)-3 (Cairo; 1946) and NAMRU-2 (Taipei; 1955), serving at the helm of both units. Phillips embarked on cholera studies during the 1947 Egyptian cholera epidemic and brought them to maturity at NAMRU-2 (1958-1965), elucidating the pathophysiologic derangements induced by cholera and developing highly efficacious methods of intravenous rehydration. His conception of a simpler cholera treatment was realized in the late 1960s with the development of glucose-based oral rehydration therapy, a monumental breakthrough to which many other investigators made vital contributions. Today, these simple advances have been integrated into everyday medical practice across the globe, saving millions of lives annually.'

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12203169&dopt=Abstract


'>snip

B. AMERICAN INTEREST IN THE DISEASE

American medical science had not yet come of age in the mid-nineteenth century. Despite three serious cholera epidemics, no major contributions to knowledge arose from the painful experience. The Marine Hospital Service dispatched Dr. Joseph Kinyoun to Europe to find ways of studying cholera and other infectious diseases. He visited the famed Professor Koch, and returned home with Zeiss’ latest microscope to set up The Hygienic Laboratory, the precursor to our National Institutes of Health, on Staten Island in 1887, but its concerns soon shifted from cholera to other diseases. (2) Corning, pp 11-15

A significant chance encounter between cholera and one of the key figures in our story took place in Cairo. Robert A. Phillips, a medical scientist, joined the Naval Reserve in 1940 and was assigned in 1944 to work at a newly established Naval Medical Research Unit (NAMRU) at the Rockefeller Institute in New York. Among his colleagues were several scientists who became important to the cholera story in later years.

>snip

Later in 1944, Phillips was assigned to an American facility in Cairo to work on typhus. After the war, this laboratory was turned over to the Navy and designated NAMRU-3. Phillips returned to Cairo to become its first head in 1947. His return was followed within three months by the first outbreak of cholera to hit Egypt since 1919.

The disease raged through the delta to Cairo and up the Nile Valley, causing 30,000 cases and 20,000 deaths in under three months. Phillips and NAMRU pitched in. Using the field-tested specific gravity techniques and biochemical analysis to determine the amounts of rehydration necessary and appropriate, they reduced the death rate of those treated from the 20% achieved by Rogers to 5 to 7 1/2%, a relatively quick return on the transfer of technology.'

http://www.developmentstrategies.org/Archives/1985NASTropDiseases/1985Trop01.htm


_______________________________________

The doubt arises in how this epidemic started,I haven't
said it was caused by HEMED BEIT ,the article I posted
doesn't say it was caused by HEMED BEIT,only there was 'some'
evidence to link 'Palestinian Jews' to the cholera outbreaks,
without saying what that evidence is.

Not very convincing,unlike the actual evidence provided
to substantiate the Acre typhoid story.

[Coastie for Truth]

26. You are correct

"Firstly, I did not 'make' you do some research... that was your choice."

Quite right. I was being facetious.

I am taking the Weapons of Mass Destruction Instructor Training for the local and for the local .

We are having a simulated sarin gas attack exercise this week (tying in the local hospitals, the fire service, the police, the emergency medical service, Citizens Corps, Red Cross, and Ham Radio Emergency Services). Includes "decontamination" of several hundred volunteers (they get lunch, a base ball cap, and a t-shirt and the "thanks" from the community). We want to test co-ordination under our incident control system. Otherwise it is an exercise in herding cats.

Part of the Bush propaganda thing to keep the sheeple scared -- but I live in the "Earthquake Zone" of the "Pacific Rim of Fire" - and even inadvertent mixing of laundry bleach and toilet bowl cleanser can give off dangerous fumes.

[Lithos]

14. Please note

DU respects fair use of copyright and expects members to keep citations to apx. 3-4 paragraphs.

Lithos
I/P Forum Moderator
Democratic Underground

[Coastie for Truth]

9. CBR is older then the hills

Even the Red Cross and FEMA's Citizen Corps/CERT Program has CBR training.

This is the basic reading list for CBR instructors--

1) The Pentagon's New Map, Thomas Barnett
2) Plague Wars: The Terrifying Reality of Biological Warfare, Mangold and Goldberg
3) Doomsday Weapons in the Hands of Many: The Arms Control Challenge of the '90s..., Bailey
4) Germs: Biological Weapons and America's Secret War, Miller
5) Biohazard: The Chilling True Story of the Largest Covert Biological Weapons... , Alibeck and Handelman
6) The Plague Makers: The Secret World of Biological Warfare, Barnaby

This is the standard "background reading" list for civilian NGO responder instructors, Chemical Corps ROTC cadets, and professionals in HazMat related fields.

This stuff is old - recognized as a doomsday weapon, and not to be trifled with.

[madeline_con]

24. "Imagine my surprise!

To find this story published on an extremely antiIsraeli website!"

You wouldn't find a whole lot of critisism of DUH-bya on a pro-B* site, would you?

With the present political situation we're having to deal with right now, why does the idea of a government possibly seeing to it that some information isn't widely available seem so far-fetched?

[Behind the Aegis]

4. suspicious

According to a leading Palestinian activist, Dr. Salman Abu-Sitta, Uri Mileshtin is a Israeli military historian, not an official historian for the Israeli Defense Force. There is a difference between a historian and an "historian for the Israeli Defense Force."

[Englander]

6. See my post above n/t.

[Behind the Aegis]

16. What does your post have to so with what I said? n/t

[Englander]

17. That is a question I ask everyday, in the I/P forum. n/t

[dameocrat]

15. Israel does send most of its garbage to the West Bank

Haaretz ran an article about it the other day. Give the fact that they are an occupying power they have no right to do this.

[Coastie for Truth]

18. Is this the"carcinogenic juice"

- YNetNews.Com, June 14, 2005

PA: Israel distributes carcinogenic food

Palestinian minister says Israel distributing food that contains carcinogenic artificial sweetener approved by FDA almost 30 years ago
By Roee Nahmias

The Palestinian Authority is accusing Israel of spreading cancer among the Palestinian people by distributing food products containing the artificial sweetener saccharine, which was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration but once thought to be carcinogenic, an Arab newspaper said on Tuesday.


Saccharine, the main ingredient in the popular “Sweet n’ Low” powdered sweetener, was once believed to cause cancer. However, the FDA approved it forhuman consumption again in 1977 after no evidence was found that it was carcinogenic.


“Sweet n’ Low” is one of the most popular sweeteners in the world and is commonly used in Israeli food products.


But Palestinian Environmental Affairs Minister Yousef Abu Safieh accused Israel of manufacturing drinks made with saccharine especially for distribution in the Palestinian Authority.<emphasis added by appender - not in original>
<snip><

In keeping with the Copyright law and the "doctrine of fair use" I will precise the remainder of the article---

Yousef Abu Safieh also said that in the past the PA had seized trucks loaded with juices and biscuits that contained the sweetener < I would assume he is referring to sacchrine, but that is just a guess, and I know I will be attacked> and that Palestinian traders manufactured the juices despite knowing of their health hazards.<emphasis added by appender>


The ynetnews article also notes that other commonly used sweeteners sold internationally include aspartame, which is found in packets of powdered “Equal” and in Coca Cola and Pepsi-brand drinks, as well as acesulfame potassium and sucralose.

"acesulfame potassium" is characterized as

Acesulfame potassium is a calorie-free sweetener that has been used in foods and beverages around the world for 15 years. The ingredient, which is 200 times sweeter than sugar, has been used in numerous foods in the United States since 1988. In the U.S., it is used in such products as candies, baked goods, frozen desserts, beverages, dessert mixes and tabletop sweeteners. Acesulfame potassium, which is also known as acesulfame K, is often used in combination with other low-calorie sweeteners because it enhances the sweet taste of foods and beverages.

- IFIC is the International Food Information Council

Sucralose is chlorinated sucrose and has been approved and is sold as "Splenda" - although in mega doses toxicity has been reported by and , a web site sponsored by The Sugar Association, which represents sugar beet and sugar cane farmers across America.

IFIC (above) reports about sucralose:

Sucralose is the low-calorie sweetener made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar. It is about 600 times sweeter than sugar and can be used in place of sugar to eliminate or reduce calories in a wide variety of products, including beverages, baked goods, desserts, dairy products, canned fruits, syrups and condiments.

Sucralose was discovered in 1976. More than 100 scientific studies conducted over a 20-year period have conclusively demonstrated that sucralose is safe for consumption. In 1990, the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) was the first regulatory body to endorse the safety of sucralose. In 1991, Canada’s Health Protection Branch became the first national regulatory agency to endorse sucralose safety and permit its use in foods and beverages. In 1998, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the use of sucralose in 15 food and beverage categories -- the broadest initial approval ever given to a food additive. Then, in August 1999, the FDA extended the approval by permitting sucralose use as a general-purpose sweetener in all foods, beverages, dietary supplements and medical foods. In January 2004, the European Union amended its Sweeteners Directive to permit the use of sucralose in a broad range of food and beverage products. Sucralose is now permitted for use in over 60 countries and has been consumed by millions of people worldwide.

What is sucralose? Sucralose is the low-calorie sweetener made from sugar. It is used around the world as an ingredient in processed foods and beverages and in tabletop sweeteners available in supermarkets and other consumer outlets.

What is sucralose made of? Sucralose is derived from sugar through a patented, multi-step process that selectively substitutes three chlorine atoms for three hydrogen-oxygen groups on the sugar molecule. The tightly bound chlorine atoms create a molecular structure that is exceptionally stable.

Is sucralose safe? Sucralose has an excellent safety profile. More than 100 scientific studies conducted over a 20-year period demonstrate that sucralose is safe for use as a sweetening ingredient. The data from the studies were independently evaluated by international experts in a variety of scientific disciplines, including toxicology, oncology, teratology, neurology, hematology, pediatrics and nutrition. Importantly, comprehensive toxicology studies, designed to meet the highest scientific standards, have clearly demonstrated that sucralose is not carcinogenic.

Which regulatory bodies reviewed the safety profile of sucralose? Among the regulatory bodies that have evaluated the safety of sucralose are the U.S. FDA, the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA); the Health Protection Branch of Health and Welfare Canada; Food Standards Australia/New Zealand, the European Union’s Scientific Committee on Food, and a host of others in South America and Asia. Sucralose is now permitted for use in over 60 countries.

[geek tragedy]

21. Oh the horror!

What will those crafty Jews do next--send DIET COKE to the Palestinian areas?

[Englander]

19. Maybe this is a marketing ploy....

by the folks at Mecca Cola;

http://www.mecca-cola.com/en/index.php

[Colorado Blue]

20. There ya go. Public Relations hardball:)

NOW I get it.

You gotta look on the bright side:)

[Lori Price CLG]

22. Kick. n/t