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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:23 PM
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IDF will no longer exercise restraint toward Islamic Jihad
The Israel Defense Forces will no longer exercise restraint with regard to Islamic Jihad militants because their attacks demonstrate they do not consider themselves bound by a truce agreement, a senior IDF officer said Tuesday.

Israeli security forces arrested Monday night 50 Islamic Jihad militants, not all of them considered "ticking time bombs," as part of a crackdown on the group following their recent terror attacks on settlements.

"Islamic Jihad has taken itself absolutely out of the agreement with its attacks, and so from our view, we are operating fully against them, as we did before," said Lt. Col. Erez Winner, a senior commander in the West Bank. "Anyone we know who is affiliated with this organization is a legitimate target."

Twenty-four of the militants were arrested near Hebron in the West Bank, 12 in Bethlehem and all the rest around Qalqilyah, Ramallah and Jenin. The army intends to hold a wide-spread operation to detain militants, after the group adopted a policy that shrugs off certain truce agreements.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/590552.html

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They should have taken the first offer.



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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:26 PM
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1. Time to bulldoze their mothers' houses
n/t
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:43 PM
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2. Damn
now they not palestinian but islamic jihad x(
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:50 PM
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3. Idiots
For so long you been fighting them
The World all try so hard to resolve the Palestinian Issues
Now to side step all this you change the name to Islamic Jihad
You kidding me you really want to go down this route
What will happen if the people of Muslim faith really beleive the garbage
Oh well maybe its better you can have all the islamic looney worldwide
World much safer then
After all an Idiot and his dream are soon realise
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:11 PM
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4. Thank you.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:51 PM
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7. Islamic Jihad is the name of a terrorist organization, which
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 10:52 PM by Colorado Blue
is operating among the Palestinian people, and which hasn't respected the "hudna". P.A. doesn't seem to be able to control them, and unlike Hamas they don't seem to be interested in seeking political office or diplomatic means to solve their problems.

They have taken credit for recent murders.

Whoops. This is in response to the post above yours, Dr. Don. My bad.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:33 AM
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9. That name has the same meaning as
The Chritian Crusade.
In short its like Holy War
Just called them insurgents , terrorist or whatever and be dont with it.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:25 AM
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10. I'm aware of the connotation, but that really is the name of
this particular group of militants. It's important to distinguish among them because they have different outlooks, different goals and different agendas. Some are political, and want to represent the Palestinian people in elections and establish a secular, democratic state. Others are specifically religious and see the struggle with Israel and the West in terms of a holy war.

They can't merely be lumped together because that wouldn't be fair to the people who are represented by legitimate political parties, nor would it accurately portray what is going on in the region.

There have been several strains of thought in the modern Middle East, going back to the 20's or 30's, and all deserve study and attention. Some have been socialist, like the original Ba'ath Party. Others, like the Ba'ath Party in recent years, or certain parties in Lebanon, have had fascist overtones. Some parties have been nationalistic, others Pan-Arabic.

Some parties represent or overlap with, certain sects of Islam. You saw this in Saddam's Ba'ath Party, which represented primarily Sunni Muslims, yet was secular. Much of the strife in Iraq today centers around fears that the former rulers will become ruled by Shi'a party, and there is concern as to the extent to which Sharia law will be imposed.

So in Iraq, some of the "insurgents" appear actually to have been members of a former RULING party. That should certainly clarify the fact that all militias, terror groups and insurgents can't be lumped together.

Still other groups are "Islamist", calling for Sharia law and the establishment of one "ummah", motherland - Dar es Islam - over the entire Middle East. In that case there would be no existing modern boundaries and of course, no Israel.

Al Qaeda also has a specifically religious point of view, calling its enemies recently "Crusaders, Christians and Jews," as it exhorted the militias in the region of Israel to resume violence. There's an article linked to this forum about that, with discussion. Some of the participants are concerned that the local struggle in I/P might now expand, although it's never been isolated - all 22 Arab states have been involved and there have been several wars involving many states including the Big Powers. But if al Qaeda gets involved it could ratchet up the violence bigtime:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x93882

Hizbollah, "Party of God", which operates in Lebanon and is linked to Shi'a Iran, and apparently has operatives in Syria as well, is also religious as well as political in nature. It has been asked to disarm and has refused. PLO on the other hand, was essentially a secular group, revolutionary in nature.

"Islamic Jihad" is a separate organization from Hamas, Fatah, so forth, which have been more or less honoring the admittedly shaky cease fire with Israel, in hopes of furthering the peace process. Both of those groups are politically active and working on the nuts and bolts issues required to establish a Palestinian state, and of course dealing with the problems presented by daily life.

Al Fatah is Abu Mazzen's party, so far representing the majority - it had been Arafat's party as well. Hamas has recently won some elections.

Hamas has a violent agenda, but has been trying to grow into a real political party while refusing to disarm. European Union and American officials, as well as Israelis, who favor speaking with Hamas as they do represent some of the people living in the OT, continue to regard Hamas as a terrorist organization because they will neither disarm nor cease advocating the destruction of Eretz Israel as a long-term goal.

In recent days, the violence has gotten considerably worse - people have been killed. The group which specifically calls itself, "Islamic Jihad", has taken credit for the killings.

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Sather Gate Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:22 PM
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5. Is this what you're referring to here
Israel revives assassination policy
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15703416-23109,00.html ???

Is it true that the IDF is using American supplied Predator drones with American supplied Hellfire missiles for this policy?

Is it "antiSemitic" for an American citizen to ask such questions?:dilemma: :patriot:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:53 PM
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6. That is a comparable article
Although I can't say I agree with targeted assassinations, I have no issue with Israel going after the Islamic Jihad, since it appears the PA either can't or won't do the same. I don't think Israel should sit and wait for these people to start destroying Israelis before they act, as this group as already declared the ceasefire over. Why should Israel have to honor an agreement that they do not?

As for you question about the weaponry, you would have to do some further research. However, I fail to see what it has to do with anything? Was it not American weapons used by al-Quadea against our troops in Afghanistan? For you see, we supplied them several years ago to fight the now defunct Soviet Empire. Still, what does the origin of the weapons have to do with this news?

Since you are new, at least to posting, I will help you out. Anti-Semitic is:

an·ti-Sem·i·tism
n.
Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
Discrimination against Jews.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


anti-Semitism

n : the intense dislike for and prejudice against Jewish people


Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

from Dictionary.com



So there is no confusion, it is not anti-Semitic to criticize Israel, her policies or politicians. It can be if the underlying reason for those critiques is because of their Jewishness. Furthermore, anti-Semitism only relates to discrimination against Jews. It has nothing to do with the region the person hails from or the language family they happen to speak. Some people tend to confuse this area. That should help. However, if you have more questions...ask away...someone here will be happy to help! :)
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 12:24 AM
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8. weaponry...
israel doesnt use american preditor drones...as it makes it own....and the missiles fired from the helicopters are american made hellfire missles (some i believe are israeli modified..... with a lesser charge)
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