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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 06:12 PM
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Gaza mosque welcomes London attacks
In a reaction similar to the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks in New York, the blood spilt in the London terror attacks has been celebrated within the Palestinian territories.

The Gaza based Sut Al Quds radio station, which identifies itself with Palestinian Islamic Jihad, has praised the London terrorist atrocities.
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The preacher welcomed the “blessed acts” that took place recently in Iraq and Britain, and highlighted their proximity to the selection of an Olympic host for the 2012 games.

“The sounds of happiness were heard in London, and Osama Bin Laden came and redrew the map. He made sure that the voice of the surrendered will be heard in every place,” the mosque's preacher said.

The sermon was translated by the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center , which emphasized that mosques under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority routinely incited for murder, and were being used by a variety of organizations with no effective supervision by the Authority.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3111465,00.html

.................................................................

let me save everyone the trouble.....

'one crazy guy doesnt mean anything...."
'hey, we have our own fundamentalists......"
hey, they do it too......."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:12 PM
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1. Tony Blair is responsible for the London attacks
Blair chose to ignore millions of Britons that marched against the war in Iraq, preferring his friendship with the evil Bush over the well-being and safety of the British people.

The London terror attacks are nothing more than the blowback for the terrorism that the US and the UK have unleashed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:37 PM
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2. The bombers are RESPONSIBLE!
Unless Blair set the charges, he is not responsible! There are OTHER ways to protest without killing innocents, who, incidentally, may have also MARCHED for peace!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:56 PM
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3. Blair is responsible, just as Bush is!
Enough of this excusing our political leaders for their warmongering policies. Just think of this: for every innocent civilian that died on the World Trade Center, Bush has butchered 10 innocent civilians in Afghanistan. In Iraq, the death toll of innocent civilians has been estimated to exceed 40,000. Compare that to the 52 innocent victims in London who would be alive today had Blair not gone into Iraq.

America's failed policies, her barbaric use of military power, and her support for despotic regimes, is the root cause of terrorism!

The events of the past day have underscored how terrorism, far from hindering imperialism, plays into its hands—sowing fear and political disorientation among the masses and giving the ruling elite a pretext for intensifying its policies of militarism and repression.

Leading government figures and much of the media in Britain have seized on the bombings to ramp up demands for further repressive measures and attacks on civil liberties, such as the planned introduction of ID cards.

The G8 summit of major industrial nations at Gleneagles in Scotland was transformed under the leadership of US President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair into an occasion to justify their war against Iraq and the so-called “war on terror.” Bush and Blair seized on the tragedy to further their political agendas. On Thursday morning, within a few hours of the bomb blasts, Bush went before the cameras and declared that “The war on terror goes on.”

Several newspapers made calls for basic freedoms to be sacrificed in the name of fighting terrorism. The Daily Mail stated, “Make no mistake, Britain will almost certainly have to sacrifice some of our ancient legal rights if we wish to protect our citizens.”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/jul2005/bomb-j09.shtml

Statement by the Communist Party, USA on today’s attacks in London

The Communist Party, USA condemns the series of bomb attacks today in London. We condemn all terrorist acts targeting civilians with violence, whether conducted by individuals, governments or groups. The number of casualties is as yet unknown, but the devastation and loss of human life of every race, religion and nationality is severe. Today’s attack should be treated as a criminal act and not as an excuse for further war, attacks on civil liberties and military aggression.

It is increasingly clear that the US/UK occupation of Iraq and other aspects of the “war on terrorism” are failures. Thanks to the war the world is less safe not more.

We convey deepest sorrow and solidarity with the British people and all those who suffered from the terrorist attack. We applaud the heroic rescue workers and individual working people who have banded together to aid each other in this time of need.

National Board

Communist Party USA

http://www.pww.org/article/view/7348/

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:03 AM
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4. NO!
Enough of the excuses for bombers! I do NOT think Shrub and Blair are not without responsibility for ATTITUDES toward both of our countries. They ARE responsible for illegal wars and unjustifiable deaths. But, they are NOT responsible for suicide bombings!!! The SUICIDE BOMBERS/REGULAR BOMBERS are RESPONSIBLE for THEIR actions! It is not excusing their reckless and murderous policies (Blair and Shrub) to declare that the bombers are responsible for THEIR own actions!

The idea that "America's failed policies, her barbaric use of military power, and her support for despotic regimes, is the root cause of terrorism! is short-sighted and not wholly accurate. There are MANY roots, our 'failed policies' are but a part of an intricate web of hate, lies, deceit, and disrespect for human life.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:43 AM
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5. no responsability....
gosh...lets not take responsability for our actions...its always "somebody else made me do it"...when our kids say that, we explain to them that "nobody made them do anything".

BUT when a sucide bomber goes off and kills people...suddenly the excuse of a 6 year old is plausable

THEY MADE ME DO IT!.


sheehs....what a world, children excuses only work when your older.......
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:09 AM
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6. If France were to invade and occupy the US
Every American suicide bomber would be hailed as a hero and a patriot by Americans opposed to the occupation. The West lacks proportionality. We decry the deaths of 52 innocent civilians in London, while the US kills that many innocent Iraqis on an average day.

The ugly fact is that one cannot divorce the actions of the London bombers from the equally criminal actions of the Blair and Bush governments. They are both linked to one another!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:18 AM
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8. I don't think so.
If Americans were blowing up cafes and buses, I would not 'hail them as patriots," only the right-wing would. You don't compound one tragedy with another. In other words, two wrongs don't make a right.

You say that " (w)e decry the deaths of 52 innocent civilians in London, while the US kills that many innocent Iraqis on an average day." I know you read this board often enough to know that there are PLENTY of people who decry the deaths of innocent Iraqis, especially from an illegal invasion! This is not the Free Republic, where the deaths of Westerners are valued above all others.

The real ugly fact is that we see constant criticism of governments, but only excuses for terrorist actions. If one sets off a bomb to "make a point," then said person is a criminal and should be REVILED not EXCUSED!
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:00 AM
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9. blind are we?
since when has suicide bombers been a cherished value of western society?....not in the one I live in, not in the ones I know

the utter contempt for life to the point where killing civilians is deemed cherished value is not one of the society that i live in......
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:04 AM
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10. Let's see you turn the other cheek
after the French occupation army murders your parents, kills your children, tortures your sisters, and bombs your town. All of those things we have done to the people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:43 AM
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11. who said "turning the other cheek?
you seemed to have confused fighting an occupation army that wears uniforms etc with slaughtering with intent civilians, people who are not involved.....most of us in the western world can descern the difference and reject those values.

and btw

infact those very things did happen to my relatives and none of my relatives nor the armed forces that were fighting along side Did NOT use suicide bombers.

In fact your going to be hard pressed to find the use of suicide bombers attacking civilians in the worlds history of wars.....its a relativly new inexcusable phenomenon...except of course for those who cant take responsability for ones actions
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:11 AM
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7. Hear! Hear!
It was like when I was a child and I hit my brother 'because he made me do it' by looking at me funny. If I said that, I was punished! In my work as a counselor, I have had to help many a person realize that s/he, and s/he alone was responsible for her/his behavior. If the US/British/Israeli governments are all supposed to be "held responsible" for their policies, then why isn't the same applied to bombers and those you support and/or encourage it?
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:11 AM
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12. It's a cause for celebration...
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 03:14 AM by Andromeda
for all of the Islamic Jihad. They were ecstatic after the WTC
attacks on 9/11 also.

The Palestinians laughed, chanted, danced and burned the American flag in glee.

It was real heartwarming to watch. :sarcasm:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 04:08 AM
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13. It was also heartwarming...
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 04:24 AM by Scurrilous
...to watch Arafat (and hundreds of other Palestinians) donate blood for the victims of 9/11.

http://web.knoxnews.com/advertising/wtc/315.html
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 04:47 AM
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14. with 1.6 billion muslims it took you long enough to find one crazy enough
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 04:48 AM by Monkie
to praise the attacks.
And when the very people that bring us these "terror messages" need there to be this terror for their own ends says enough.
"the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center" just another "NGO" that is run by ex-israeli intelligence.
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:00 AM
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15. Spooky.
Shouldn't you give the credit for finding this
to Charlie Johnson, or give a 'hat tip' to 'mglazer'?


:shrug:


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