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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:54 PM
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Palestinian Poet Lashes Out at Militants
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050713/ap_en_ot/palestinians_culture_war

RAMALLAH, West Bank - It's been a hot summer on the Palestinian arts scene: gunmen broke up the concert of a popular
West Bank singer after he refused to limit his repertoire to political songs, and a Hamas-run town banned a music festival to prevent mingling of the sexes.

Now, Palestinian national poet Mahmoud Darwish is striking back, saying fanatics have no right to deprive Palestinians of beauty in their lives. "There are Taliban-type elements in our society, and this is a very dangerous sign," Darwish told a gathering of artists and intellectuals this week.

It's not just an argument over artistic freedom, but over whether a future Palestinian state will be a theocracy or a pluralistic democracy.

Compared to other Arab societies, the Palestinians were once largely secular and tolerant of Western customs, even with Islam as the majority religion. Many Palestinians have strong ties with the West, including relatives living abroad or years spent studying in foreign universities.

However, more than four years of Israeli-Palestinian fighting have led some Palestinians to seek solace in religion or return to tradition, also a reflection of a regional trend.

Islamic fundamentalists, meanwhile, have become increasingly assertive. The militant Hamas group scored several victories in local elections in recent months, and expects to pull even with Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas' secular
Fatah movement in future parliamentary elections.

In the West Bank town of Qalqiliya, Hamas won local elections earlier this year with promises of better government services, but also with assurances it would not impose its religious beliefs. However, two weeks ago, Hamas banned a one-day music festival in town, arguing that the mingling of men and women at such an event was "haram," or forbidden by Islam.

Mustafa Sabri, spokesman for the Qalqiliya municipality, said the ban was democratic because it reflected the wish of the majority.

"We are not like the Taliban," Sabri said, referring to the Islamic fundamentalists who enforced harsh religious laws during their rule of
Afghanistan. "But we respect them (the Taliban) because they chose something suitable for their people."

Mohannad Ghneim, 30, an ambulance driver from Qalqiliya who had hoped to attend the concerts, said he fears Hamas will increasingly try to meddle in his life. "Today, they ban a concert. Tomorrow they might ban satellite TV," he said.

Last week, music lovers got another jolt when gunmen broke up the concert of popular singer Amar Hassan at An Najah University in the West Bank city of Nablus. Hassan shot to local fame last year after he came in second in a Lebanese TV version of "American Idol," a competition of aspiring artists in which fans vote for their favorites.

Before the Nablus show, militants from the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades came to Hassan's hotel room. They told him he must sing only political songs, and cut love songs from his repertoire. The Al Aqsa gunmen, who have ties to Fatah, told Hassan that light-hearted entertainment is forbidden as long as
Israel occupies the West Bank.

Hassan said he ignored the demands, and started his concert before a crowd of 6,000. During his show, dozens of gunmen and hundreds of protesters rallied outside the university's walls. Gunmen fired in the air and threw stun grenades, eventually forcing Hassan to break off the performance. As concertgoers left the campus, the protesters barged in, throwing chairs and scuffling with those leaving.

Hassan said in an interview Tuesday that he would not be silenced. "These people (the militants) don't want us to be happy.They want us to sit in the ruins and cry," he said. "We will wage a creative war against them, with more poems, more art, more singing."

A local Al Aqsa leader, Ahmed Al-Taki, said the group will continue to ban concerts.

On Monday, Darwish, a Palestinian cultural icon who has eloquently described his people's struggle for independence, rallied to Hassan's side, inviting him to a meeting with Palestinian intellectuals and artists in Ramallah. Darwish told participants "we all have to resist" attempts to restrict artists.

Darwish's comments were published Tuesday in the Palestinian newspaper Al Ayyam. The reclusive poet, who lives in Ramallah, was not available for comment.

The concerts in Qalqiliya and Nablus had been part of an attempt to restore a sense of normalcy after more than four years of fighting, said organizer Iman Hamouri. The summer concert series began in 1994, but was suspended during the Palestinian intefadeh.

Hassan Khader, a cultural affairs commentator for Al Ayyam, said Hamas is powerful enough now to impose its beliefs, but that he believes such attempts will eventually backfire at the polling booth. "If Hamas wants to be a political power, it can't force people to adopt its ideology," he said.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:14 PM
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1. Good for him, and thank you for posting this. nt
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:28 PM
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2. INFIDEL !!!! COLLABORATOR!!!!!!
How dare he attack hamas.


He's dead...or probably will be soon.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:30 AM
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3. Why is it suddenly so quiet here?
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 02:31 AM by Andromeda
:evilgrin:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:39 AM
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4. Why don't you tell us?
Maybe because most folk realise that there's nothing new in Palestinians speaking out against militants and don't really have much to say?

Violet...
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:49 AM
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5. Gee, you could have fooled me.

-Andromeda
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:12 AM
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6. Why? What do you think?
Don't go all shy and coy now...

Violet..
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:02 AM
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8. When they stop rewarding Hamas
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 04:08 AM by Andromeda
in their local elections that'll be the day I'm convinced that the Palestinians want a secular society again. The Islamic Jihadists are trying to creat a theocracy and that certainly doesn't encourage freedom of expression.

I applaud the poet but I don't really think he and others like him have enough support to go up against Hamas. Poets have always been political and have always spoken out against oppression. If this guy can pull it off, more power to him.

Until then, I'm not convinced that the people have much of a voice as long as they live in intimidation by the militant groups.

edited for spelling
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:16 AM
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9. they dont speak out a whole lot....
but then I really dont blame them.....those that actually do speak out, those 'regular palestenains" are putting their lives in their hands when they do.....the society is so broken up in to various violent groups and sub groups its very dangerous to open ones mouth.

At this point, as i see it, its now the palestenians in the public eye that must make the stand, like the poet and singer...if and when they get attacked it will be in the news and perhaps eventually (as in lebanon) get the public pissed off enough to act.

but it will take some gutsy palestenians to do it..and to keep on doing it.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:51 AM
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10. pel.....whadda you mean "now" ?? lol
I keep waiting month after month, year after year, for the so-called moderate peaceful palestinian leadership and population to speak up and rise up against the terrorism in their midst. Sadly its an event such as this thats the exception and not the rule.

At a certain point , one must ask is there any real desire on the palestinian politic to stop terrorism ?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:16 AM
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11. Prominent Palestinians have spoken out before...
I'm going to have to dig back through the archives to find it, but a bunch of them, including Hanan Ashrawi, put a full page ad in newspapers denouncing the violence. The problem appears to be that when people do speak out, they get ignored. Some people are genuinelly unaware that they do speak out, and others totally ignore it and then claim that Palestinians never speak out. Part of that latter group is made up of those who hold bigoted and stereotyped views of the Palestinian people. Each and every time a Palestinian speaks out they're the first there to go: 'that's a first!' - {b]each and everytime...

I tend to believe the average person on the street would be more inclined to act if their fellow average people weren't being killed on a regular basis...


Violet...
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:22 AM
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12. hanan's ad.....
it was about a year ago....the week after they had to apologies and explain what they meant in a new ad....what they "meant" was that they were threatened and did some double talk to save their skins

it was a nice try though
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:12 AM
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19. 60 people apologised?
That's how many prominent Palestinians signed the ad. I just did a bit of a look around and saw nothing about any new ad with a changed meaning, and given that people like Hanan Ashwrawi and Sari Nusseibeh were among them and have continued to voice their opinion that violence is not the way to go, I'm a little bit sceptical. Considering the bunfight that broke out here at the time Hanan Ashwrawi won the Sydney Peace Prize, I'm sure a changed ad would have been right up high in the arsenal of her detractors if it had happened...

Violet...

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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:06 AM
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13. killed by whom?
Israelis or fellow Palestinians?
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:37 AM
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16. nobody killed...
their original full page ad calling for non violent protests was amended the following week....I forget the exact wording but basically it backtracked and mentioned that non violent protest would dishonor all of the palestenians who died....etc etc etc

obviously they were pressured to modify their stance......doesnt take much imagination to figure out what it was
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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:11 AM
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17. sorry pelsar
I was replying to Violet (or at least i meant to reply to Violet).

"I tend to believe the average person on the street would be more inclined to act if their fellow average people weren't being killed on a regular basis..."
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:14 AM
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20. Well, who do you think kills most Palestinians?
n/t
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:55 AM
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7. Don't forget the...



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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:07 AM
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14. are we supposed to know what that is?
(...because I don't!)
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:22 AM
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15. Ah,sorry,I was making a point about the copyright rules.
If you look at the bottom of most news site web pages,
there'll be a little circled c - ©,& that's what the symbol
looks like,magnified.

So,that's what it refered to.

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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:19 AM
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18. ah
i thought it was some secret code. lol

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