Jewish militants put death curse on Sharon?

[H5N1]

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Jewish ultranationalists put a death curse on
Ariel Sharon, saying only God could breach the heavy security around the Israeli prime minister, the Ynet Web site reported Tuesday.


"It's preferable that God, rather than a mortal, kills him because his bodyguards are just too good," Ynet quoted one of the participants at a "Pulsa Denora," an ancient Jewish ceremony which it said was held at a cemetery at the weekend.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050726/od_nm/sharon_curse_dc;_ylt=Atxw1YgG2S.lVo1E6Qwr1Uqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3NW1oMDRpBHNlYwM3NTc-

Is this any way for adults to behave?

[Imagine My Surprise]

1. Can that include an American President?

[H5N1]

5. I am quite certain I have no comment on that (heh heh heh)

[H5N1]

2. I had a death curse put upon me in New Orleans...

in 1976. I don't think death curses work so well.

[Maple]

3. That may explain why

Sharon announced the other day that he had NOT had a heart attack.

I hadn't even heard a rumor that he did, before it was officially denied.

[SteppingRazor]

4. OOOoooOOOoooOOO! Scary!

Gotta look out for those death curses.

In any case, what is Sharon's base these days? The right hates him, the left hates him, and the moderates aren't big fans either? Why hasn't he been ousted by a no-confidence vote?

[Behind the Aegis]

6. Better to behave this way, then gunning him down.

[H5N1]

9. No no no...this is funny and nothing more

Please lighten up

[Behind the Aegis]

11. Sorry

Making fun of religion doesn't really give me a thrill. I may not like all parts, but, well to each his own.

[bemildred]

7. Bwaaahaaahaaa. Funniest thing I've read today. Thanks.

:rofl::rofl:

[H5N1]

8. My GOD thank you!

This is funny shit.
I mean really: Death Curse!
That is funny shit.

[Violet_Crumble]

12. It was pretty funny. Nothing like a good curse to brighten the day..

I might write to these guys and see if they'll do a bulk curse aimed at everyone involved with Big Brother. I am so sick of three hour specials on who bitched about who and who's bonking who..

Violet...

[eyl]

13. Except that

last time some idiots did this - Yigal Amir took it on himself to see to it the curse was fulfilled.

[Violet_Crumble]

14. When it comes to Big Brother...

..fulfilment of the curse would make the world a better place j/k


Violet....

[eyl]

15. OH? You think that would improve the situation?

Like it or not, Sharon is currently the best chace for any sort of peace here. And bear in mind that should he step down or lose power, his most likely successor is currently Netanyahu, who's already shown his incompetence as PM.

[Behind the Aegis]

16. Of course it would!

Silly! The death of Sharon and the ascension of Netanyahu (or as he is often called here...Nutty-yahoo) would be perfect! As much as people hate Sharon, the hate for Netanyahu is unmeasured! Then it could always be Israel's fault, as it should be! :sarcasm:

[Violet_Crumble]

19. Thanks for fielding that question, Violet!

I think we may have to get together and get a call-centre script happening so in future when you answer on my behalf, you get the Violet Answer right ;)

Violet...

[Violet_Crumble]

18. I think ending the monstrosity that is Big Brother would!!

Don't you have an Israeli version of this? If you don't, yr country is truly well off!

Violet...

[eyl]

20. AAGH!!!! My eyes, my eyes, they burn!!!

I think we do have something of the general type (not to mention imports, in this international age). I try not to pay attention.

[Violet_Crumble]

22. Don't say I didn't warn you!!

It's truly monstrous and enough to make me tempted to get rid of the telly altogether...

Violet...

[Coastie for Truth]

10. Liturgical Question

What is the order of the "Pulsa Denora" services - like where does the Shechianoh fit in, and Kaddish? And do you need a minyan? Do you sit shiva after a "Pulsa Denora."

[Monkie]

17. the actual quote from YNET is even worse than yahoo prints

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3118275,00.html

"Hitler and Stalin combined were guarded by 10 percent of the security force that protects Sharon, so it would be futile to have mortals attempt it (assassination)," he said. “God can kill in many different ways, and we pray that just as he took Uzi Chitman (singer) and Ehud Manor (songwriter), so, too, would he take Sharon within a month’s time.”"

Hitler and Stalin combined...
now i hold strong opinions about Sharon but Hitler and Stalin combined is a stretch by any definition and a dangerous stretch at that.
Now i have no idea what that singer and songwriter have done that deserves the wrath of god but im open to being educated.

another interesting thing from the YNET article.

"“We said the prayer near the grave of (hanged pre-state activist) Shlomo Ben-Yosef - the most suitable site - as he is Sharon’s antithesis,” he said. “Ben-Yosef sacrificed his soul for the people of Israel, while Sharon is robbing the nation. We hope the lord will take him from us.”"

now this sounds pretty harmless "hanged pre-state activist" but when we check history and see who this "activist" REALLY was,well surprise surprise,he was a religious fanatic illegal immigrant terrorist hanged for attacking innocent Arabs on a BUS

Now think about ALL the implications of this?

http://www.etzel.org.il/english/people/benyosef.htm

"In 1937 he decided to immigrate to Eretz Israel, but failing to obtain the certificate granted by the Jewish Agency - he joined a group of 'illegal' immigrants as part of the 'Af Al Pi' project. When he reached Eretz Israel on September 20, 1937, he joined the Betar labor company at Rosh Pina and shortly afterwards was accepted into the Irgun. On arrival at Rosh Pina he burned his foreign passport and changed his name to Shlomo Ben-Yosef.

He was arrested by the British after shooting at an Arab bus as a retaliation to the murder of six Jews."

[eyl]

21. I know why they hate Sharon

and (obviously) Hitler and Stalin, but what the hell did they have against Uzi Chitman and Ehud Manor?!?

[Violet_Crumble]

23. Obviously not music fans, are they?

n/t

[Monkie]

24. there is some music im sure we would all define as terrorism?

if i may joke at such a serious subject.
(and no im not suggesting we make a list of music as terror!)
I had hoped someone would know these musicians and explain their significance to those right-wing terrorists

[Violet_Crumble]

25. One of them was in the Eurovision Song Contest?

n/t

[eyl]

27. Not as performers

But Chitman wrote the song "Kan", which won third place in the 1991 Eurovision.

Manor wrote the song Abanibi, which won the 1978 Eurovision contest, as well as at least three other Israeli entries to the contest in various years.

[Monkie]

28. Eurovision song contests?that puts them firmly in the terrorists camp

by my definitions of music and terrorism :P

[eyl]

26. That's the puzzling thing

Both those artists were about as mainstream Israeli as you could get (especially Manor, who could be said to be among those artists who define the mainstream). I can't really think of any reason for the "cursers" to be so riled up about them.

I mean, I could at least understand the logic if it had been someone like Aviv Gefen*, who's quite firmly identified with the Left (and the Oslo Accords in particular)

*Besides the obvious fact that Gefen isn't dead (tfu tfu tfu) which would harm their analogy...

[Monkie]

29. thanks for the info,the music of some cultures doesnt travel well

in these days of pre-packaged ersatz musical conformity,so i hadnt heard of them nor was able to place them anywhere on the "musical spectrum"