Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Now it's up to the Palestinians

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Israel/Palestine Donate to DU
 
Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:33 PM
Original message
Now it's up to the Palestinians
Now it's up to the Palestinians
Los Angeles Times
Yossi Klein Halevi
August 17, 2005


EVEN AS ISRAEL'S anguished self-confrontation unfolds in Gaza with the army's dismantling of two dozen thriving towns and agricultural villages, Palestinian leaders are demanding more. This withdrawal is only the beginning, they promise their celebrating followers. Today Gaza, tomorrow the West Bank and Jerusalem.

Yet whether Israel ultimately cedes all that the Palestinians say they want will depend on the Palestinians themselves. A wary Israeli public needs to be convinced that the Palestinians want to build their own state more than they want to destroy the Jewish state. Gaza is the test case for that open question.

In the coming months, a Palestine taking sovereign control of territory must begin confronting the terrorist regime that has grown in Gaza. It must wrest foreign aid away from militias and private bank accounts and put it into schools and hospitals. Its leaders must dismantle the refugee camps that have been a permanent condition of Gaza life and resettle their residents in decent housing. Finally, it must temper the culture of hatred against the Jewish people that has become routine in Gaza's schools, mosques and media.

If the Palestinian leadership initiates that difficult process of physical and spiritual renewal, then the Israeli majority — which craves peace far more than biblical borders — will support negotiations over extending Palestinian sovereignty. And even if, as the Palestinians suspect, Ariel Sharon intends Gaza to be his first and last withdrawal, the Israeli majority will insist on substantive talks. No Israeli leader can survive politically if the electorate perceives him to be blocking a chance for peace.

Full article
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:04 PM
Response to Original message
1. Keep on dreaming...
With Ariel Sharon, by contrast, what you see is what you get. He has always been in the destruction business, not the construction business. As minister of defence in 1982, Sharon preferred to destroy the settlement town of Yamit in Sinai rather than hand it to Egypt as a reward for signing a peace treaty with Israel. George Bush once described his friend Sharon as "a man of peace". In truth, Sharon is a brutal thug and land-grabber.

Sharon is also the unilateralist par excellence. The road map issued by the quartet (US, UN, EU and Russia) in the aftermath of the Iraq war envisaged three stages leading to the establishment of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel by the end of 2005. Sharon wrecked the road map, notably by continuing to expand Jewish settlements on the West Bank and building an illegal wall that cuts deep into Palestinian territory."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1511702,...

This is all smoke and mirrors. Sharon is giving nothing and taking everything he can steal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Didn't you post this already?
And what does it have to do with the original article?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Since this is an allegedly Progressive, Left Wing Web Site
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 06:42 PM by Coastie for Truth
Might I be so presumptuous as to ask--

    1. What was gained by divesting Citi (with investments in developing an entrepreneurial infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank) while retaining JP Morgan-Chase which has been less helpful.

    2. Have you read and understood H. John Heinz Professor Richard Florida's two books "Rise of the Creative Class..." and "Flight of the Creative Class..."
      Before asking me where I am going with that question, consider
      1) Florida was a key Kerry economic development adviser.
      2) Florida is an H.John Heinz Foundation adviser (as in Teresa Heinz Kerry)
      3) Have you read the books.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
caitlyn Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Should I post the same reply I gave the last time you posted...
this nonsense?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 01:30 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Israel/Palestine Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC