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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:06 PM
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Fox News smack down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYQ330sOPRk&mode=related&search=Fetzer

This professor gets to Ollie North and Alan Colmes. Beautiful! :)
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 07:43 PM
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1.  I love this quote! "You got your Facts Fauxed" Professor James Fetzer
Edited on Sat Jul-15-06 08:23 PM by DianaForRussFeingold
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Thank You! I saved this video! Both Hannity and Colmes came off as clueless. I guess they had to throw in Ollie North to make it a fair and balanced debate... :rofl:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:21 PM
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7. Yeah that was pretty funny
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:09 PM
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2. He actually thinks that they demolished the twin towers?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:16 PM
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4. That who demolished the twin towers?
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:21 PM
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6. the government
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:19 PM
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5. I wish this was related to someone with a more mainstream view
I'm not too fond of that theory or the others he is professing, though I like the fact that he sttod his ground.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:23 PM
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10. What theory?
He raises questions, more than anything. I didn't hear him blaming anyone for 9/11, just that we have not been told the truth. And we haven't.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:53 PM
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14. "We have discovered ... controlled demolition... Bin Laden had nothing ...
to do with 9/11".

Those are not questions - he said it as a matter of fact - "we have discovered".

I don't tend to agree with his theories - but I'm not going to argue that with people who do. I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a machete.
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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:39 PM
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22. Can I ask you
out of all fairness and compassion, what would make you not want to question the official conspiracy theory? I am not trying to confront you... I am just curious.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:22 PM
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8. Lots of people think that
Have you seen Loose Change? It explains a lot and brings up a lot of questions.
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:28 PM
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11. I have a conspiracy theory theory (which isn't really mine)
If more than 15 people are in on something important they can't keep it secret. It's how I know aliens didn't land at Roswell. It's how I know that things like this aren't true. They involve more than 15 people.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:43 PM
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12. I understand that theory theory
I also know that people have died who knew too much about the vote counting (stealing) in 2000.

I didn't believe they had fixed the machines either until 2004 and what happened in Ohio. Now it isn't at all crazy to believe they stole both elections.

I used to believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing JFK. After all, who is around to tell us any different?

I used to believe my vote counted. Now I am watching a voter ID bill take my 81 year old mother's right to vote away from her. Never in a million years did I think that would happen.

I didn't buy any of this 9/11 conspiracy stuff until I saw Loose Change. I still don't know what to think. All I know now is that, like that professor says, we have not been told the truth. And that - the fact that they lie to us and hide the truth from us - is definitely something I believe now. It didn't take 15 people to convince me either :)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 09:16 PM
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16. 19 alledged Arab hijackers kept a secret.
At least that is the contention of the Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 10:33 PM
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17. Sorry but that is a BS meme. CIA commits 100,000 crimes a year - minimum
we don't hear shit about most of them.

<snip>
A safe estimate is that several hundred times every day (easily 100,000 times a year) DO officers engage in highly illegal activities (according to foreign law) that not only risk political embarrassment to the US but also endanger the freedom if not lives of the participating foreign nationals and, more than occasionally, of the clandestine officer himself.
<snip>
http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/house/intel/ic21/ic21_toc.html

The black ops guys who commit assassinations
of third world leaders for corporations or the CIA NEVER talk.
Just read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins,
that will give you some perspective on what kind of people
the jackals who commit these types of crimes are.

In addition, people one or two steps removed from the crime have blown the whistle on activities related to the 911 cover up. The question is whether anyone is willing to listen. As in the case of Sibel Edmonds of the FBI, or Anthony Schaffer of Abel Danger, or Indira Singh who dealt with P-tech, or Coleen Rowley of the FBI.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 10:48 PM
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18. The Manhattan Project says Hi! (eom)
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 03:07 PM
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21. Yeah right. There are no covert ops, because the spooks are
so chatty.

You don't even have to keep it secret. CIA agent Larry Mitchell met with Osama
in July of 2001. It was reported in Le Figaro, but nobody cares.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:11 PM
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3. k&r
:hi:


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:45 PM
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13. So is lying
and covering stuff up and klilling innocent people in Iraq and worshipping the nitwit in charge.

Ain't Faux grand?
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:22 PM
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9. Wow!
That was great. That man needs more exposure.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 09:10 PM
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15. K&R >>
While I generally agree with DFLer4edu's theory theory (I lean toward a 20 max in-the-know), I have lots of questions.

And I really like the way this professor stood his ground.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:22 PM
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19. I'd like to know....
given the OTC hardliners here jump on every post, why they are not here defending Faux, Hannity, colmes, and North. After all, they are arguing the same points. Just askin'. Thanks.
quickesst
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:38 PM
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20. Yes, I'd like to know that too.
Identical talking points.
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