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Slaughtermeyer Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:50 AM
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GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
A Republican congressman (Curt Weldon, PA 7th) has publicly praised an anti-Bush video. And not just any anti-Bush video, but the one by BYU Professor Steven E. Jones which accuses the Bush administration of deliberately allowing 9/11 to happen and placing explosives in the three tallest World Trade Center buildings to make sure that they would be totally destroyed on 9/11. Unbelievable? Just have a look here:

http://republican.meetup.com/92/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1870074

The anti-Bush video in question can be seen here:
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/02/dr-steven-jones-utah-seminar-video.html

A bombshell from the FBI: The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
For details, see http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:59 AM
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1. I hope he walks towards the light
I f***ing despise republicans
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:03 AM
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2. WTF!
Are you saying (this is rhetorical, repeated for emphasis) that the FBI is NOW SAYING that it cannot be 'assumed' that Osama was responsible for 9/11?

Gee, this is right up there with McNamara's confession re: the fallacy of the Vietnam War.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:05 AM
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4. Isn't that a hoot?
Of course, they won't admit to where the evidence points.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:04 AM
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3. I still haven't figure out
where Curt Weldon is really coming from all this?

Personally, I think Able Danger and thermite theories are distractions.

I respect the work of Dr. Jones, I just don't agree with the his conclusion that it was thermite that took down the buildings.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:07 AM
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5. I slightly know Weldon from a couple of events...
I can't figure out what's gotten into him lately...he has a difficult race this November but his base isn't exactly up on current events if you know what I mean. Strange distrit...used to vote for Bob Edgar, a progressive Dem who is also a minister and has a prominent position now....Whole thing's weird.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:30 AM
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8. Yeah, he was all the rage at Free Republic for awhile when they
thought his efforts were going to lead back to Clinton. I haven't checked if they have anything about this story. I'm a little scared to look.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:57 AM
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18. Weldon was all the rage here and on Lou Dobbs show for a while too
How embarrassing.

Don
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #3
13. Regardless of the actual implosion method used
You can easily see the plumes of smoke shooting out in sequence.

This was a "done" deal.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:23 AM
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21. Oh I agree
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 10:24 AM by DoYouEverWonder
I just don't think they went around put thermite on everything. I think what they used was much worse then that if the truth is ever uncovered.

I'm convinced that our own government used thermobaric weapons to bring down the towers and the implications if that is true is much, much worse then if they used just thermite.

One of the 'nice' things about thermobaric weapons is that they don't leave much of behind that you wouldn't find in an ordinary fire that used any other accelerant, like let's say jet fuel, to start.

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BuddyYoung Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:39 AM
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33. DoYouEver Wonder if maybe it's just as important to discuss the
implications of what most of us on this forum know is the truth: that 911 was an inside job? Note: that is NOT intended as a criticism towards YOU.

I salute the efforts of dedicated Truth Seekers who are doing a masterful job in figuring out the mechanics of how the self-attacks were carried out (including yourself), and I think it's equally important to try and understand the implications of what it means to know our own government is the guilty party. Not Osama bin Laden, not 19 young Arab men, and certainly not an organization whose very existence is a myth, made up by the CIA.

The more "Opinion Leaders" working on behalf of 911 truth there are, and the more they are able to craft an effective message about the implications of 911, the better off we'll all be.

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:34 PM
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36. that is interesting, especially in light of the recent
stories on the effects of those weapons. had not thought of it at the time.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:54 PM
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46. You can see the evidence of it in this pic


See the black plume going up in the middle of the collapse. This plume lasted only a very short time and this is one of the few good pictures of it. However, that plume is black when everything else is grey or white. To me this indicate fuel or some other accelerant burning.

In controlled demolitions everything goes straight down and some stuff blows out but not much.

With the WTC that is not what happened. It was more like a volcano. Material went up and out, that requires a major source of energy, such has a WMD.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:46 PM
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41. The interesting thing to me is...
The entire site stayed red hot for a very long time. Far longer than any jet fuel could have lasted. The jet fuel may have set it off, maybe. But whatever kept it burning for so long was pretty powerful stuff.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #13
26. Experts tend to agree with that assessment...
Global Research

One might doubt that you can have so many corroborating eye witnesses and still call it a "conspiracy theory."
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:48 PM
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42. They slap that crappy title on anything
They don't want to explain to us. I remember when I was called a conspiracy theorist when I said there were no damn WMD in Iraq or they would have used them on our troops. It's all a bullshit tactic to keep us ignorant and afraid to ask good questions.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:01 AM
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29. When buildings collapse
for whatever reason that they collapse, there will *always* be plumes of debris. *ALWAYS*. As the floors of the buildings collapse they force the air out between them at high velocity. Any debris--and there will be *lots* of it--is ejected in plumes of so-called smoke.

As this would happen regardless of the method of collapse, whether it be controlled or catastrophic, one cannot use the existence of these plumes as evidence for controlled demolition.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:52 PM
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43. You can when they move in sequence in the opposite direction of
the collapse! And when they are in strategic locations where one would put explosives in a controlled implosion. And when a building collapses due to uneven structural damage, it topples over and doesn't ever, ever come straight down. It collapses toward the area of structural breach. Always.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:10 PM
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54. Yes but those plumes go out and down very quickly
They do not go UP, like we see in the WTC and continue to go up even after the rest of the building is down. UP takes a large energy source to defy gravity.

No WTC 1 & 2 were not controlled demos they were blown UP not DOWN.



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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #3
17. he actually
says it was a specific type of thermite called thermate, which is basically thermite with sulfur added. At least that's the chemical composition that he and his team of scientists were able to isolate from the metal samples, and the peer review agreed.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #3
23. Self- Deleted for being unnecessarily snarky
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 10:27 AM by mikelewis
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #3
65. why don't you agree with his conclusion?
and why do you think they are distractions? distractions from what?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:10 AM
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6. Interesting Repug forum that you posted
They actually allow rational discussion about 9-11.

Thanks for the link, it's good to check out how the other half sees things at the moment.

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:11 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. Methinks
people are beginning to realize that the three card Monte game was a con after all.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:47 AM
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9. exactly PCIntern...
They don't pay off on a trifecta if you're caught cheating. Thanks.
quickesst
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:01 AM
Response to Reply #6
49. I know, even "they"
don't censor it. They attack anyone who questions what happens, though, but that is what is happening here too.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:55 AM
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10. Careful here...
Weldon is not exactly a stable individual. He was ready to go to Iraq a few weeks ago to dig up the missing WMD's which he swore were buried underground in Iraq.
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plessy123 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:35 AM
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11. I wouldn't doubt they are buried in Iraq

We gave Saddam almost six months whilst screwing around in the U.N. (the biggest stalling body in the world) to hide stuff in the huge Iraq desert. Hell if I was Saddam, I would have hidden them there.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. If he had them
He would have used them against us and never allowed his country to be overthrown or himself to be captured.

Please.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. Hmmmmmm......
:eyes:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. !
:rofl:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. Kurt Weldon? Is that you? n/t
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:48 AM
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27. oh, but rumsfeld knew exactly where they were, remember?
:eyes:

And with all that conclusive satellite coverage that Powell showcased at the U.N., you'd think we might have been able to figure out where some of the WMD went.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #11
31. yes they are north west east and south of baghdad.
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 11:24 AM by SlavesandBulldozers
underground and in the sky too.

you practically trip over the shit when you walk around out there really.



and let's not forget syria.

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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #11
39. yea and Saddam was behind 911 too
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #11
62. You must keep looking for them.
You have great chance to find them for us considering that your head is already in the sand!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:59 AM
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19. Weldon has been LIHOP since Sep 12th NT
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 10:00 AM by dmesg
But keep in mind he's sort of the Traficant of the GOP
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:24 AM
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22. Ah, that explains it
No wonder there hasn't been word one from the WH on all this Able Danger business.

And I really think that Sean Hannity and the rest of the Short Bus Veterans for Truthiness has been told to cool it on the Weldon theories.

Because they've all stopped mentioning it.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:03 AM
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20. interesting...
Quote from Weldon from the interview you posted:

"Now, there's a lot of theories out there about what occurred. And uh, I haven't gone into the structural elements of the building. The fact that there are reports on multiple explosions on other floors... I am open to that information. I'm willing to challenge the system. And uh, and don't automatically discount anything that's told to me because I've seen, I've seen too much. I mean, ya know, I hate to say that sometimes I don't trust my Government, but sometimes, I don't trust the Government. The bureaucracy."

--Curt Weldon

Can this be true? A Republican who says he is willing to "challenge the system." ???? :shrug:


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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:29 AM
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24. Weldon is a strange case
If you'll remember he was going after Able Danger for a while - which could have been very damaging to the administration. But curiously he never got anywhere with it. Otherwise he seems to be a hard core right-winger.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #24
58. Several right wingers have embraced 9/11 truth
Paul Craig Roberts
Catherine Austin Fitts
Morgan Reynolds
Webster Tarpley
I believe Rep. Ron Paul has made some remarks (could be wrong about that)
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Slaughtermeyer Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #20
25. Yes, it's true
> Can this be true? A Republican who says he is willing to "challenge the system." ????

You can hear an audio recording of that town hall meeting here:

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/weldongold911.mp3
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #25
32. any "D" congress critters willing to join him?
NO, that would be unpatriotic.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:54 AM
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28. what about Ron Paul?
that's the Republican I thought you meant until I read your post! He made an impressive speech this week, and presented a more passionate case for withdrawing from Iraq than I've heard any elected Democrat make! Bush treats these Republican members of Congress as only disposable pawn pieces to pass the reckless agenda of his contributers, and an has no loyalty to those who voted for him..Republican or otherwise.

How much longer will other Republican representatives blindly allow themselves be used for serving the needs of this political cult over those of individual voters?
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BuddyYoung Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #28
34. When he isn't busy delivering babies, Ron Paul is a Libertarian who
makes more sense than 99% of his GOP colleagues in Congress.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:12 AM
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30. Isn't Weldon the one who exposed Able Danger?
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Slaughtermeyer Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. Yes, Weldon and McKinney worked on Able Danger
You can see and hear a couple of Weldon's Able Danger speeches about 25 minutes into this documentary:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757267008400743688
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. I wonder if he's seen "Loose Change Two".
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:07 PM
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37. Why not? Scratch most 9/11 conspiracy theories and you'll find a rightwing
nutcase.

Take Dr. Jones, for example. He's a big time rightwinger. Of course, he'll gather a little respect from Republicans. What kills me is that he gets respect from people who claim to be Democrats, even though all they ever do is post in the 9/11 Dungeon against actual Democrats and progressives. Strange, that.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:05 AM
Response to Reply #37
50. Really?
Do you want to point those rightwingers out? "strange, that" who else says that?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. Let's see.
Strange, but the words "strange" and "that" are common English words. No one has a monopoly on them, or on their combination into a phrase.

That you would think the phrase "strange, that" to be significant of anything is quite strange.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #37
59. Dr. Jones gets respect because he is rational, organized,
expresses himself clearly and moderately and he keeps laying golden eggs.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #37
63. Strange, indeed.
Considering that from my limited observations, I've concluded the exact opposite.

Oh, well.
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theanarch Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:35 PM
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40. Weldon isn't eactly the sharpest tool...
...in the shed; and he is something of a tool. Whatever the truth about 9/11 may be (personally, i'm militantly agnostic on the subject), i suspect this is merely Curt's paranoia getting the better of him, which isn't anything new. He's one of the pillars of support for SDI/Star Wars, and an almost hysterical proponent of militarizing space (a couple of small companies in his district live on minor SDI contracts). On social issues, he's slightly to the right of the Rev. Moon, whom he counts as a close and personal friend. It wouldn't surprise me if he's running scared this year--his district has been trending Democratic for the past few years, and he has an opponent (a retired Navy Admiral) who is taking a fairly hard anti-war stand (too bad he's a DLC'er beyond that). Weldon used to be one of the top "leadership" PAC's, raising millions for his "campaigns" (hasn't had serious opposition in 16 years) and bankrolling fellow GOPs, either incumbents in trouble, or challengers with credibility (as a way of getting fellow congress-critters to be loyal to him and his agenda)...this year, he reportedly won't be contributing to other GOPs campaigns, and is instead dumping every penny he can get his hands on into his own campaign. Yes, Curt's more than a little whacky, and should be regarded with polite skepticism.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. Most of us...
know why 9/11 threads are sent to the dungeon. It is percieved by some that it hurts the democrat's credibility. Riddle me this. Why send a 9/11 thread here when they do it? Using the logic of the OTC and the admin, isn't that protecting the republicans from ridicule? Why would they do that? Why not keep it kicked and recommended on the front page to show the rest of the world how "crazy" the repugs are? If it hurts the democrat's credibility, why would it not hurt the repug's credibility? This thing has gotten laughably transparent. Thanks.
quickesst
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:29 PM
Response to Original message
45. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:55 PM
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47. I'm no engineer. All I know is that when these buildings collapsed..
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 11:56 PM by niallmac
a group of people some call neocons were catapulted into
unquestioned power and authority over all our lives.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:59 AM
Response to Reply #47
48. yep and there are a lot of posters here
trying to convince us it's an accident. In fact, the number of posters saying it was not an inside job seems to grow proportionately to the amount of people who disbelieve the official story. Hmm, I wonder what that means.
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BuddyYoung Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. Is that really what "a lot of posters here" are trying to do?
"trying to convince us it's an accident"

Maybe they could care less about CONVINCING anyone here - after all, most people on THIS forum are too smart and too knowledgeable to be convinced that day is night. Maybe that's only what they WANT people to think they're trying to do. Isn't it just as likely that the objective is to DIVIDE 911 Truth Seekers?
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:21 AM
Response to Reply #51
64.  Also to discourage questioning and discussion
using the tried and true methods of ridicule, intimidation, and "expert" opinion made possible by Google University advanced degrees.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. It's kinda like UFO's in my book.
I have no personal experience to make me say unequivocally that they exist.
On the other hand I have no information or experience to conclude they do not exist.
Those who demand disbelief in the phenomenon to me are just as suspect as little
tin foil hat moi.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #52
60. I like your thinking, niallmac. Healthy agnosticism is unfortunately
rare in this world.

"There is more truth in honest doubt, Believe me, than in all the creeds". -Tennyson
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Slaughtermeyer Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:57 AM
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55. PA GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
Republican congressman Curt Weldon (PA 7th) has publicly praised an anti-Bush video. And not just any anti-Bush video, but the one by BYU Professor Steven E. Jones which accuses the Bush administration of deliberately allowing 9/11 to happen and placing explosives in the three tallest World Trade Center buildings to make sure that they would be totally destroyed on 9/11. Unbelievable? Just have a look here:

http://republican.meetup.com/92/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1870074

The anti-Bush video in question can be seen here:
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/02/dr-steven-jones-utah-seminar-video.html

A bombshell from the FBI: The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
For details, see http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:57 AM
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56. What's weird is that your first link is to a Republican meetup group
and they are praising Weldon for this.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:57 AM
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57. I bellieve...
he is in good company with his beliefs. Here is a list of reasons why I believe the truth is not being told. They also believe that, to varying extents, the government is withholding the truth.

Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics
Ed Asner, actor, activist
Marshall Auerback, international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice & Associates, Inc.
Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst. Secretary of Housing in the first Bush administration
Keidi Obi Awadu, aka The Conscious Rasta, talk show host, LIBRadio
Michael Badnarik, Libertarian candidate for President
Byron Belitsos, publisher, Origin Press, author Planetary Democracy
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania
Medea Benjamin, activist, author, co-founder, Global Exchange and Code Pink
Dennis Bernstein, investigative reporter, radio host of KPFA's Flashpoints
Steve Bhaerman aka Swami Beyondananda, author, political comedian
Brad Blanton, Ph.D., psychotherapist, author, Radical Honesty
Saniel Bonder, spiritual teacher and author, Great Relief
Dr. Robert Bowman, USAF Lt. Col. (Rtd.)
John Buchanan, author, candidate for the Republican Party Presidential nomination, 2004
Gray Brechin, Ph.D., author, environmental historian, professor, UC Berkeley
Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
Norma Carr-Rufino, Ph.D., author, professor of management, SFSU
Angana Chatterji, Ph.D., scholar-activist and professor of anthropology
Paul Cienfuegos, co-founder, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County
David Cobb, attorney, national presidential candidate, US Green Party
John Cobb, Ph.D., theologian, co-author, For the Common Good
Ernest Callenbach, founder/editor, Film Quarterly, author, Ecotopia
Kevin Danaher, Ph.D., author, speaker, co-founder, Global Exchange
Stephen Dinan, author, Radical Spirit
Ronnie Dugger, journalist/author, co-founder, Alliance for Democracy
Rachel Ehrenfeld, Ph.D., Director, American Center for Democracy, author, Funding Evil
Daniel Ellsberg, author, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
Jodie Evans, co-founder, Code Pink
Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law, Princeton University
Michael Franti, musician, filmmaker, human rights worker
Janeane Garofalo, actress, comedienne, talk show host, Air America Radio
Jim Garrison, Ph.D., president, State of the World Forum, author, America as Empire
Bruce Gagnon, Chair, Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
Ric Giardina, Director of Trademarks and Brands for Intel
John Gray, Ph.D., #1 bestselling author, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
Stan Goff, 25-year Army Special Ops veteran, author, Full Spectrum Disorder
Melvin Goodman, senior fellow, Center for International Policy
Morton Goulder, Deputy Secretary for Intelligence under Nixon, Ford, and Carter
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., theologian, author, New Pearl Harbor
Doris "Granny D" Haddock,NH Democratic candidate for Senate
Thom Hartmann, radio host; author, Unequal Protection
Richie Havens, singer, songwriter, performer, artist
Paul Hawken, founder of Smith & Hawken
Randy Hayes, founder, US National Director, Direction Conservation
Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, core faculty, New College of California
Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
Rob Kall, editor, OpEdNews.com, president, Futurehealth, Inc.
Georgia Kelly, executive director, Praxis Peace Institute
Sean Kelly, Ph.D., author, professor of philosophy and religion, CIIS
John Joseph Kennedy, Democratic Write-in Presidential Candidate for 2004
Mimi Kennedy, actress, Dharma and Greg, progressive activist
Faiz Khan, M.D., Triage Emergency Physician on 9/11, Assistant Imam
David Korten, author, When Corporations Rule the World
Frances Moore LappÈ, author, Diet for a Small Planet; founder, Small Planet Institute
Scott M. Legere, 25 year radio broadcaster as Scott Ledger, Tampa FL
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN Magazine, author, Healing Israel/Palestine
Michael Levine, bestselling author of Deep Cover, journalist, 25-year veteran of the DEA
Joanna Macy, Ph.D., eco-philosopher, author
Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
John McCarthy, former Special Forces, Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy
Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Cynthia McKinney, five-term Congresswoman from Georgia
Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author, professor, co-founder, Green Earth Foundation
Mark Crispin Miller, media critic, author, professor, New York University
Joseph W. Montaperto, New York City Fire Department
Leuren Moret, geoscientist, radiation specialist, environmental commissioner
Ralph Nader, Independent candidate for President
Craig Neal, author, co-founder, The Heartland Institute, former publisher, Utne Reader
Jeff Norman, executive director, Tour of Duty
Jenna Orkin, Esquire, World Trade Center Environmental Organization
Kelly Patricia O'Meara, investigative journalist, public relations
Michael Parenti, Ph.D., author, Superpatriotism and The Terrorism Trap
Edward L. Peck, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq
Peter Phillips, Ph.D., professor, Sonoma State University, director, Project Censored
Henri Poole, Internet pioneer, board member, Free Software Foundation
Robert Rabbin, author, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Paul H. Ray, Ph.D., sociologist, author, The Cultural Creatives
John Renesch, business futurist, author, Getting to the Better Future
John Rensenbrink, professor emeritus, Bowdoin College, co-founder, US Green Party
John Robbins, author, founder, EarthSave International
William Rodriguez, 9/11 rescue effort hero, founder, Hispanic Victims Group
Neal Rogin, Emmy-award winning writer, performer, social observer
Allen Roland, Ph.D., psychotherapist, published author and peace activist
Rosemary Radford Ruether, professor of feminist theology, Graduate Theological Union
Michael Ruppert, publisher/editor, From The Wilderness, author, Crossing the Rubicon
Chris Sanders, founder, Sanders Research Associates
Karl W. B. Schwarz, President, CEO, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, author, Drugs, Oil, and War
Firefighter Kevin Shea, FDNY Hazmat Operations
Michelle Shocked, singer/songwriter, activist
Indira Singh, risk management and computer systems consultant
J. Michael Springmann, attorney, former Foreign Service Officer, US Department of State
Douglas Sturm, Ph.D., university professor emeritus, Bucknell University
Marjorie Hewit Suchocki, Ph.D., theologian, author
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council
James W. Walter Jr., venture investor, philanthropist, founder of Walden Three
Dan Whaley, E-commerce pioneer, founder of GetThere.com, acquired for $750M
Burns H. Weston, J.S.D., Professor of Law Emeritus, Center Human Rights, U-Iowa
Howard Zinn, professor, historian, author, A People's History of the United States

Family Members

Joanne Barbara, wife of FDNY Asst. Chief of Dept. Gerard Barbara
Gayle Barker, sister of William A. Karnes, WTC
Michele Bergsohn, wife of Alvin Bergsohn, Cantor Fitzgerald
Derrill Bodley, father of Deora Bodley, passenger on Flight 93
Kathryn C. Bowden, sister of Thomas H. Bowden, Jr. WTC1, 104th floor
Janet Calia, wife of Dominick Calia, Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC1
Maggie Cashman, wife of William Joseph Cashman, United Flight 93
Lynne Castrianno Galante, sister of Leonard Castrianno, 1WTC, 105th floor
Elza Chapa-McGowan, daughter of Rosemary Chapa, Pentagon
Bruce De Cell, father-in-law of Mark Petrocelli North Tower, 92nd floor
Ralph D'Esposito, father of Michael D'Esposito, WTC, 96th floor
Loisanne Diehl, Surviving Spouse, Michael D. Diehl, WTC2, 90th floor
Adina D. Eisenberg, sister of Eric Eisenberg, WTC
Jonathan M. Fisher, son of Dr. Gerald Paul "Geep" Fisher, Pentagon
Michael J. Fox, brother of Jeffrey L. Fox, Tower 2, 89th floor
Laurel A. Gay, sister of Peter A. Gay, AA Flight 11
Irene Golinsky, wife of Col. Ronald F. Golinski USA RET, Pentagon
Lori, Jerry, and Beatrice Guadagno, sister and parents of Richard Guadagno, Flight 93
Kristen Hall, daughter of fallen firefighter Thomas Kuveikis 9/11
Kurt D. Horning, father of Matthew D. Horning, WTC Tower One, 95th floor
Jennifer W. Hunt, wife of William C. Hunt, Euro Brokers
John Keating, son of Barbara Keating, passenger on AA Flight 11
L. Russell Keene II, father of Russ Keene III, WTC2, 89th floor, KBW
Peter Kousoulis, sister died in WTC
Paul & Barbara Kirwin, parents of Glenn Davis Kirwin, Cantor Fitzgerald 105th floor
Barbara Krukowski-Rastelli, mother of William E. Krukowski, NYC firefighter
Laura and Ira Lassman, parents of Nicholas C. Lassman, died in WTC, Tower One
Johnny Lee, husband of Lorraine Greene
Alicia LeGuillow, mother of Nestor A. Cintron III
Francine Levine, sister of Adam K. Ruhalter, who died on 9/11
Bob McIlvaine, father of Robert McIlvaine, WTC, Merrill Lynch
Mary McWilliams, mother of FF Martin E. McWilliams- Engine 22
Daryl J. Meehan, brother of Colleen Ann Barkow, WTC 1, 105th floor
Elvira P. Murphy, wife of Patrick Murphy, WTC 1
Natalee Pecorelli, sister of Thomas Pecorelli of Flight 11
James L Perry, M.D and Patricia J. Perry, parents -John W. Perry NYPD Officer
David Potorti, brother of James Potorti, North Tower, WTC, Marsh & McLennan
Terry Kay Rockefeller, sister of Laura Rockefeller, North Tower, WTC
Grissel Rodriguez-Valentin, wife of Benito Valentin, WTC1, 94th floor
Alissa Rosenberg-Torres, widow of Luis Eduardo Torres, post-9/11 mother, writer
Elaine Saber, mother of Scott Saber
Julie Scarpitta, mother of Michelle Scarpitta, WTC Building 2, 84th floor
Paula Shapiro, mother of Eric Eisenberg, WTC2
Elizabeth Turner, wife of Simon Turner, lost on 11th September 2001
Adele Welty, mother of Firefighter Timothy Welty, FDNY, Squad 288
Joan W. Winton, mother of David Winton, WTC, South Tower, 89th floor
David Yancey, husband of Vicki Yancey, American Airlines Flight 77
Nissa Youngren, daughter of Robert G. LeBlanc, flight 175
Late Signatories (starting toward 200...)

Rita M. Haley, President, National Organization for Women, New York Chapter
Immortal Technique, Harlem-based hip-hop artist with Viper Records, Revolutionary I&II
Bob Kirkconnell, U.S. Air Force 27 years, rank of Master Sergeant
Dennis Kyne, former Army air medic, 18th Airborne Corps during Gulf War
Paul Landis, author, "Stop Bush Now!"
Eric H. May, former Army military intelligence officer and media essayist
Charles Shaw, Editor, Newtopia Magazine
Peter Erlinder, professor, William Mitchell College of Law
Daniel Robert Rezac, former Aviator & Armor Officer, Army National Guard, B.S.B.A.
Joel Horwitz, lost beloved cousin in WTC 1
Jessica Murrow, lost husband Stephen Adams, Beverage Manager WTC 1
Ellen Mariani, lost husband Neil on Flight 175
Jean Hunt, disabled survivor of Pentagon attack
Ralph & Brigitte Sabbag, lost son Jason in WTC 2

Now, who should I throw my lot in with. The people listed above, or BushCo? Thanks.
quickesst
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #57
61. That list is what made me start to take 9/11 Truth seriously
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 10:48 AM by petgoat
When I first saw the the WTC squibs I explained them first as photoshopped
hoaxes, then as air blowing down elevator shafts. Then I learned there was
no air defense for 90 minutes on 9/11. Huh? I'd thought the attacks happened
so fast there was no time to react!

When I saw that list and saw that three presidential candidates who had much
to lose and nothing to gain had endorsed the 9/11 Truth statement, I took
notice.

Another important list is the widows' ratings of the 9/11 Commission's
responses to their questions.

http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatings_111904.php

The widows had asked 316 questions. They rated the responses to 296 of them.

69% were not addressed.
23% were addressed but not adequately answered
8% were answered


The 9/11 Truth Statement, the widows' ratings, and Dr. Griffin's "A 571 Page Lie"
are IMHO the three essential documents of the movement.


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