7/7 - Mind the Gap 1.0

[reprehensor]

David Shayler, ex-MI5, narrates an exploration of the 7/7 bombings; with references to 9/11 and the nature of how Western intelligence agencies interface with Islamic "terrorists".

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[mirandapriestly]

1. terrific resource

"Perspective: Robin Cook stated in the Guardian shortly before he died, "Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians." (guardian)


Whenever I see that I remember this is all one big lie - the war on Terror - to take citizen's rights away from them and put the control of the entire globe in the hands of a few.

Speaking of the MI5 - The director of the film on the Shanksville flight had worked previously with someone from the MI5 on another film. So...it was obviously propaganda, just wanted to mention that as a btw.

[mirandapriestly]

2. I just watched this, it is really good, I took notes

My notes are not that great, but a general outline, I recommend a look-see, can't beleive this thread has no response in a month
David Shayler from MI5
http://www.officialconfusion.com/77/mindthegap/Google/mindthegap.html
Narrator is former counter terrorism with MI-5

Opens with footage of 9-11 and gives the main points and talks about how 911 was an inside job, but majority think that this kind of talk is "conspirqacy theory" talk
Then 7-7, some quick notes, you should watch it though-some notes:
NOTES:
The train damage was consistent with bombs underneath the floor boards.
They said explosives were homemade but more consistent with dynamite or C4
No witnesses / survivors saw bombers
Police reportedly tried to pressure witnesses into saying they saw bombers
No footage from traffic cameras released
Men not on Underground camera
cameras not working that day on bus - no explanation (sound familiar?)
limited circumstantial evidence -Police
none of bombers fit established profile of suicide bombers
several were expecting children
seemed like "nice guys"
reports on terror training incomplete inconsistent and based on limited hearsay
why would they target other Brits who were vastly opposed to Iraq war?
Started saying "Hallmarks of Al Qaeda " immediately after attacks then changed rhetoric to "movement" , ie:"evil ideology" as opposed to what Al qaeda really was (database)
These guys ("bombers")had nothing to do with "al Qaeda" it is now known
Website hosted in America was said to be "proof' by mainstream media, but anyone could have done the webssite video questioned to be authentic; shows phony AlQ vids
Then al Kahn is shown to have intelligence links, maybe be informant?
Aswat who was said to be mastermind was hidden and protected by MI6
Britian allowed radical muslims to recruit and train in Britain so they wouldnt bomb in Britain- called "Covenenant of Security"

Report- prior knowledge of bombings does not reveal what intelligence is based on. There was a lot of prior knowledge lots of warnings and there were exercises being held on the same day in the same place (sound familiar?)
people involved said plan was for "dummy bombs"
cctv secuirity cameras tampered with
this took attention away from G8- no progress was made
England - climate of frear, totalitarianism
no real investigation (sound familiar?)
lack of well sourced info
anomalies in explosives
Aswat both mastermind and MI6 (sound familiar?)
call for open independent inquiry
They close with showing a guy arrested for quoting George Orwell in public.
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act. "

my opinion:
(I get the feeling the bombers thought they were in an counter terrorism exercise or something like that. He did not say this, though, I think that may be true of some parts of 9-11, too)

[paulthompson]

3. I haven't seen that

But I was reading the book One Percent Doctrine recently, and I found it interesting that the alleged main bomber of 7/7 was in the US intelligence's sights and they did nothing about it. Here's an article that talks about it:

http://www.officialconfusion.com/77/priorknow/usintel/190606TimesUSissuedwarningkhan.html

But that article doesn't give the full story. The book says that the question of what to do about him actually went to the very highest levels of the US government, implying that the likes of Bush and Cheney were behind the decision to let him go. They caught him red handed talking about planning to blow up buildings and still let him go. They actually did worse than nothing, because by denying him entry into the US they tipped him off that he was considered a suspect, so he was more careful.

Why the Democrats don't make a big deal out of things like this never ceases to amaze me.

[rman]

4. I'll have a look at that one.