C-Span: "9/11" the Other View right now at 8:00 p.m. est..."

[KoKo]

Lots of "standing ovations for C-Span doing this" right now...and Alex Jones is Introducing!

TUNE IN! There were lots of DU posts alerting it...SO TUNE IT IN NOW!!!!!

[panader0]

1. Please keep us informed. I don't have a TV

[Cassandra]

6. Use the link here...

if you can stream it.
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=APS&ShowVidNum=10&Rot_Cat_CD=APS&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=100

[Cleita]

2. Thanks for the heads up! I was almost settling in to watch

a movie and would have missed it. Alex Jones is talking about "Operation Northwoods".

[KoKo]

5. Alex Jones is a bit "strident" but then most DU/Dems are kind of "Strident

at this point in our experience after "2000 Selection" and all we've been through.

So...I give Credit to C-span for this...and I know that owners of "DU" really think this is garbage/conspiracy with NO Credibility...BUT...it COMES FROM GRASS ROOTS!

It's worth a listen ...because we ARE "open minded and want to hear all sides."

:shrug;

[burythehatchet]

3. I can't believe the Northwoods and Tonkin

WOW

[Cleita]

4. Okay was also talking about the Gulf of Tonkin attack as being

staged to be able to go to war with Vietnam. I remember that. He's making a point about the bold faced lying. Also, mentions the Zogby Poll which I took that said 48% of Americans believe something is wrong about what happened on 9-11.

[Cleita]

7. Bummer this got sent to the basement.

Anyway, I'm glad other people are talking about it besides us.

[KoKo]

8. Professor Stephen Jones talking about "molton metal" from Tower 7

He's going into the "burn points" and how one can determine what they are..and he's finding stuff that caused him to "wake up" to the Official Reports" that they really were leaving out alot!

He's going into how he got into thinking that "Tower 7" really went down..

[Cleita]

9. There was always a question about this and it looks

like the scientists are putting theories to the tests to prove what should have been done by the 9/11 investigation. This guy Steven Jones from Brigham Young university is probably a Repuke too. But he said that our Constitution is hanging by a thread and he loves his country.

[KoKo]

12. C-Span did the Discussion,sorry that DU felt C-Span isn't approved

unless it's Mod and Amin filtered now for "content" that doesn't register on the "Conspiracy Theory Monitor."

I thought there were some good points made...but they were very "strident" and it would take alot for most Americans to accept what they say.

I was disappointed that Paul Thompsons "9/11 Timeline" wasn't given..(at least so far that I've seen...and Mad Cow's very detailed "with links" reports about "Atta and Florida and the "FLYING TERRORISTS" wasn't reported...but if we DU'ers had been "allowed by the "Powers that Are" we might have hashed out what we liked and didn't like and could have had a good discussion about it...pro's and con's and that would have been FREE SPEECH!

As it is, the threads got locked and moved and many more "timid" DU'ers were worried about "Tombstones and Such" and so they didn't get into the discussion and the rest of us lost our ability to focus on anything but the "FREE SPEECH/ANTI-CENSURE" aspects of it...so the whole discussion was ruined. And since it was CENSURED there really wasn't an opportunity for DISCUSSION...:-(

[KoKo]

13. Discussing now the "Gatekeepers on the LEFT!"

well...we know what that is...we've seen it here, tonight...:-(

[KoKo]

14. I've always had a problem with the "planted explosives theory" in

Tower 7 and Twin Towers. But, I'm open to that as long as folks realize that Mad Cow Productions reports about the Florida "Flying School" and Atta are where we really need to focus. How the buildings came down is not as important as WHY and WHO!!! Just my 2 cents.

[DoYouEverWonder]

37. Focus on the easy stuff first

When I talk to someone who doesn't know a lot about 9-11 I stay away from the physics side of it. That goes right over most people's heads.

Instead, I focus on the behavior of the top leadership in command of US Defense that morning. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfled, Tenet, Myers, Rice, Wolfowitz, Libby, and the rest. Almost every single of one watched the attack on TV while it went down. Bush even claims to have seen the first plane hit, before anyone else in the US saw the replay of the video they found later that day. Bush watched in his limo.

Cheney & Rice watched the attack from Cheney's office in the WH.

Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz watched while they were in a meeting in Rummie's office in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz's response was 'there didn't seem to be much to do about it immediately and we went on with whatever the meeting was.'

Myers saw the news on TV while he was waiting to go into Senator Cleland's office for a meeting. He told Cleland's secretary not to disturb him. He didn't know about the Pentagon being attacked until he came out of the meeting at around 9:40AM.

So here we have Bush & all his top people sitting around between 8:30 - 9:30 AM watching the attack go down and doing nothing to respond to it. For over one hour they deliberately ignored the attack while it was in progress. It was not until after the Pentagon was hit did any TOP ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL begin to launch a response.

9-11 wasn't MIHOP or LIHOP it was a FLOP. A FAILURE to LEAD ON PUPROSE.

[Pastiche423]

10. Who is this guy that is speaking now?

DAMNIT! Why must this most important subject be reduced to the basement?

[mirandapriestly]

40. It's so true

without 911 none of the other stuff would have been able to occur- the war, the Hatreriot Act, attacks on our constitution, ridiculous power of the executive office when he is at 30% approval (probably a lot less). All of it because of 911 and we can't talk about it in the open????

[Cleita]

11. It's been a good day for C-SPAN. First the ABA trashed

Bush for his signing statements which they say he is using to circumvent the law and Congress and now this. It has made my day. Influential Americans are standing up and saying "enough".

[Cleita]

15. That was a great symposium.

It give us hope that maybe we can end this nightmare.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. Repeats at 11pm Eastern

for those who missed it

[KoKo]

18. Yeah...try to catch it...if you can....it's hard when stuff is

Censured by Gate Keepers who I worry now might approve of "Banning Books" which is the antithesis of why I'm here on this site. It's very sad ...very sad...

I can't even understand it..

[valerief]

17. Wow. I never thought I'd hear that much honesty on TV in my lifetime. nt

[Joanne98]

19. I have a question. Why are they accusing the left of blocking

the movement?

[Cleita]

20. I sort of agree with them. Many of our so-called leaders have

been complicit in enabling them to get away with their plans like Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein and Hillary Clinton for starters. Also, Washington insiders like Donna Brazille and James Carville have been going along with the flow instead of shining a light on the cheating, stealing and other criminal acts going on.

[Joanne98]

24. And the Dems on the 9/11 commission have to know the truth..

[ikojo]

31. Donna Brazille and James Carville are hardly

representative of the "left" in the US. I have friends who are truly left wing and they discount the "official" government explanation of 9/11/01.

Folks in both parties are more concerned with maintaining the system we have rather than investigating what really happened on 9/11/01 because if even a percentage of what I've heard about 9/11 is true it has the potential of bringing down the US government.

[Cleita]

32. It won't bring down the government, but it will bring down the

shadow government holding us hostage. The sooner they come down, then the sooner we can restore our real government. Any so-called Democrat who doesn't want to face up to this reality because their nests might become unfeathered are as much traitors as those criminals they are enabling.

[valerief]

21. Well, they're not exactly embracing these theories, are they?

If the theories make so much sense, and the folks speaking on the 9/11 C-Span show tonight sure sounded sensible to me, then why aren't left talk show hosts talking nonstop about the hijacking of America by BushCo etal?

[mirandapriestly]

22. Many of them will not discuss it

Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, Kos, Move On for example. Democratic Underground won't allow 9-11 discussions to show in "plain view" and they allow abusive posters with no apparent democrat or progressive leanings to attack us, 24/7.

[Joanne98]

26. Sometimes I wonder, if we have "leftists" asigned to keeping us

under control. The right is so easy to control. But we're a problem. It's just a thought.

[valerief]

28. Yeah, like good cop, bad cop. But both are cops. n/t

[Joanne98]

29. No. More like "minders" who show us around and keep us busy.

[valerief]

39. Yeah, the minders would be the good cops. n/t

[mirandapriestly]

30. Yes, I know what you mean

They will only go so far in terms of criticism of the right, but when it comes to calling the war "genocide" or questioning 9-11, or election fraud, then we become "kooks" and our "heros" back down. The people who do confront those things immediately become discredited by the corporate press and if you bring their names up you are laughed at. It's a real racket.

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. That's why you're in the dungeon

This is just one example of how the left blocks open discussion of 9-11. By not allowing open discussion the OCT theory is allowed to dominate.

[Joanne98]

25. I noticed that.

[mirandapriestly]

34. Which is ridiculous considering

the polls at DU show a vast majority disbelieve the official theory and yet the Bush tinhatters are a majority in this forum and what is even more interesting is that as public skepticism about 9-11 grows , the number of blind deniers (or so they say) grows in this forum, which is counterintuitive to what should happen in a fair representation of progressives. I have seen them quadruple in the last 6 months and they are not coming from the ranks of DU. They rack up posts in the lounge (1000 in 2 weeks) then come here "pretending" to be old timers.

[leesa]

33. It's why you are reading it in this forum and why places like Kos censor

it as "conspiracy theory". They sell the government fairy tale about what happened on 9-11 even though it makes no sense. They are acting as Gatekeepers to prevent the truth of what happened that day from being discovered. Democratic Underground is part of it. They are afraid to take it out and examine it.

[mirandapriestly]

35. "Intellectually and Morally Degrading"

that is how Webster Tarpley described being expected to believe the hijacker story and that is what it is, but God forbid you should question it even on DU, you get called names.

[Joanne98]

27. C-span is now showing a video of Cheney from June....

It's like there showing it after the 9/11 therories ON PURPOSE. Is c-span being subversive?

[mirandapriestly]

36. I noticed that, too

they brought it up right after Webster Tarpley was talking about the shadow gov't which he related to Cheney and the guys who control him, it was very noticeable...

[Sven77]

38. good stuff, its on again today

tape it and give it to your friends

Sunday 2:15pm e.s.t.