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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:22 PM
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Question? What was in tower 7, that it needed to come down?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:35 PM
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1. oh, apparently lots of things
securities and exchange commission (that apparently had a lot of investigations underway)

the cia
the irs
the secret service
mayors office of emergency management

http://www.wtc7.net/background.html

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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:04 AM
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4. Do go to his link....command central...it was designed to withstand
a terrorist attack, since the towers had been a target previously. It's just amazing, down goes 7 and any evidence of their ability to carry out what took place. Gotta love the CIA, they are experts at black ops.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:34 PM
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20. from wtc7.net...
One of the most interesting tenants was then-Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management, and its emergency command center on the 23rd floor. This floor received 15 million dollars worth of renovations, including independent and secure air and water supplies, and bullet and bomb resistant windows designed to withstand 200 MPH winds. 2 The 1993 bombing must have been part of the rationale for the command center, which overlooked the Twin Towers, a prime terrorist target.

How curious that on the day of the attack, Guiliani and his Entourage set up shop in a different headquarters, abandoning the special bunker designed precisely for such an event. 3
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:56 PM
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2. Massive structure damage and fires on six floors fed by diesel fuel
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:23 AM
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3. Of which there is no proof
for either claim.

Please show me pictures of massive structural damage and/or massive fires in WTC7?

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:39 AM
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8. Haven't you ever seen the photos?
There's one that I distinctly recall that gave a good shot of how a large part of the building on one side had been gouged out by falling debris. I'm sure it's around somewhere. Also, the massive tank of diesel--something like 7,000 gallons--is a matter of public record, as WTC7 housed the city's emergency operations facility, and they needed to store fuel for the generators.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:30 PM
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18. They are with the pictures of the Pentagon missile nt
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:54 PM
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21. Correction: with the pictures of the Pentagon 757 nt
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:00 PM
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5. proof? n/t
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:16 AM
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23. where's your evidence?
I read only a cpl. fires on a couple floors.

I think you may be disingenuous blobo, or are you just confused still?
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:20 AM
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6. Out on a limb here - other than what's already been stated
the electrical system for the other two towers ran out of 7 - maybe the detonation sequencers were located therein :tinfoilhat:
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:29 AM
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7. Can you explain that in more detail?
sounds interesting..
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:04 AM
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10. The Con Edison electrical sub-station was located in the basement of 7
and supplied electricity to the other towers. When setting up the preplanted explosives, they could have readily and easily run the det cord alongside the regular electrical wiring over to 7, basically with no one noticing, cabling upgrade and what not. Then they could run the charges from 7 on the day and at the time selected, from the comfort of their bunker, if you will. A pyrotechnics pro, if they had one, could have selected which charges to ignite first depending on where the planes hit, to get a good uniform fall that didn't FUBAR too much of the city.

Probably not the best link to prove it had a substation, but it's not a fact in question as far as I know.
http://www.bestandworst.com/v/79457.htm

The new one will also have a substation.
http://www.projectrebirth.org/rebuild/engineering/conEd.html

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:10 AM
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11. I've never heard that idea
and I sure wouldn't have thought of it myself, although I knew about the Con Ed substation. You've always been such a good poster.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:18 AM
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12. Gee, thanks. n/t
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:47 AM
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9. I have read the theory
that flt 93 was supposed to hit wtc7 , but when that plane went down or whatever happened to it, they had to go through with the demolition anyway. There were "3rd plane" rumors I have read in different accounts. Also, I've read a lor of Enron information was "lost" in the process.
***Only theoretical***
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:02 AM
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13. Here's another recent take.
World Trade Center Building 7 and Financial Markets

World trade center building 7 was the third skyscraper to collapse on September 11, 2001. Fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper but the government claims fire caused the collapse. The evidence was quickly destroyed. Strangely the government rapidly recycled the steel from the most mysterious building collapse in world history. Why did outlaw government agent’s plant explosives in the buildings and then blame the collapse on fires?

World trade center building 7 was the original headquarters of the junk-bond firm Drexel Burnham Lambert. Drexel Burnham Lambert contributed to the $500-billion taxpayer-underwritten Savings and Loans bailout. Before the explosion on 9/11 the SEC, IRS, and the Secret Service were housed in building 7.

The first reason the building was destroyed is to destroy evidence. Evidence relating to 9/11 and illegal trading including the put options placed before 9/11 had to be destroyed.

The second reason building 7 was destroyed Is the building next to it at 140 west street was the hub and switch for voice and data communication for all of lower Manhattan. A clear reason for shutting down the NYSE was needed because without shutting down the markets the sell pressure would have destroyed investor’s faith in the market for years. Without question NASDAQ, Archipelago and Instinet, as well as the futures and options markets in Chicago were ready to function throughout the disaster.
9/11 was an inside job without question. The net must be cast wide and ensnare all perpetrators of this mass murder as America wakes up the truth behind 9/11.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/48924/world_trade_center_building_7_and_financial.html
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:49 PM
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14. Don't we live in the digital age?
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 03:59 PM by hack89
wouldn't all this evidence be in a electronic form that would be backed up in a separate location? You know - standard computer emergency planning? Or am I missing something here?
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Carefulplease Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:03 PM
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15. All the backups were actually carbon copies...
And since the only two paper shredders available were malfunctioning on that day, they had no other choice but to blow up the building.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:08 PM
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16. I knew there was something I overlooked. nt
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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:40 PM
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19. you may be overlooking
that it may have well been an opportunistic grab bag of things that could have been accomplished all in one grand stroke.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:07 AM
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22. See that story doesn't stand up
Because everyone knows that white plastic chairs can be used as emergency document shredders in the case of a shredder shortfall.
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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:52 AM
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27. lame ... quit trying to discredit through association n/t
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Brainster Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:20 PM
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17. Except the Info On the Put Options Was Not Destroyed
DOH!

"I've got a great idea! Let's place put options on the airlines involved."
"But then we've gotta destroy Building 7, so the info on the put options is destroyed!"
"So then we don't make any money? Brilliant!"
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:18 AM
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24. So what became of the investigation into the put options? I
remember the suspicious amount of put option activety was discussed early on on news programs. Yet I never heard what happened. Did you?
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:44 AM
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25. Which investigation? Here's one with 7 pages worth of results:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:44 AM
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26. The 9/11 Commission adopted the somewhat circular
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 02:36 AM by petgoat
reasoning that since there was no apparent connection between the put options
and Osama bin Laden, therefore the identity of the purchasers of the puts
was of no interest.

I'd also suggest that people who want to visit 9/11 myths copy the url into another
browser window. Personally I wouldn't want 9/11 myths to have my IP number down as
referred by DU.

(edited to ad IP warning)
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:09 AM
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28. As The Church Lady would say, hmm, how convenient. n/t
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