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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:54 PM
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Amazing photos sept.13 2001 WTC --I haven't seen these yet.
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 11:57 PM by IChing








too many to post here but check it out
These photos were taken at Ground Zero, the World Trade Center site in New York, on September 13, 2001.

They were taken by someone named "Ed" who was allowed into the area by a member of the emergency response crew, at a time when all civilians -- including most journalists -- were forbidden to enter the area. As a result, these photos are just about the only close-ups ever taken of the World Trade Center site so soon after the 9/11 attacks.

http://www.zombietime.com/wtc_9-13-2001/


link to photos:http://www.zombietime.com/wtc_9-13-2001/

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:38 AM
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1. Thanks for the pics
I have seen these before but I still find them fasinating to look at. Two passenger jets and fires that burnt for less then two hours could not do this much damage.



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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:13 AM
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2. Yes, very helpful photos. However, your statement
"Two passenger jets and fires that burnt for less then two hours could not do this much damage", is a bit odd. Who is saying that? Certainly not me, and certainly not any of the critical thinkers who argue that controlled demolition is a bullshit theory.

One also wonders who the hell would say that the buildings "fell straight down", eh?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:14 AM
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3. That is the OCTer theory
I don't buy the controlled demo theory mainly because the visual evidence shows that the buildings were blow up not down. I've never seen a controlled demo that looks like a volcano went off.


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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:21 AM
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4. No, it absolutely is NOT the OCTer theory. nt edit:
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 06:31 AM by greyl

DoYouEverWonder Thu Jul-27-06 03:06 PM
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6. No, shadows change.
Her legs looks the same in every picture.

Plus she's dark, shadows would make her darker. In these pics her feet are almost white.


DoYouEverWonder Thu Jul-27-06 03:08 PM
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8. Shadows move
Her legs don't change.

I've done lighting and I work in graphic arts. I spend a fair bit of my time in Photoshop. This is something that is ON her legs.


DoYouEverWonder Thu Jul-27-06 03:41 PM
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41. The same shadow

in every picture?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1747231#1747501


I love how, in post #61, you finally admitted that your interpretation of the photo evidence was totally mistaken.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:03 AM
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8. The OCTer theory
is that planes flew into the buildings and that the fire from the jet fuel brought the buildings down. Is that not correct?

I did not mean to imply that the OCTer theory supports a controlled demolition. That is one of the CT theories. I can see how my response could be interpreted to combine the two theories, I am sorry if I was not clear about the difference.

Interesting that you are so interested in my posts? If you didn't notice I started the thread has a question and has a joke, because the pictures were so odd. The rest of the thread is representative of the thought processes that went into analyzing the picture. At some point, someone found a link to the video of the event, where it was apparent that a big fat spotlight was the source to the odd effect the shadows created. I had no problem admitting that the effect was just a shadow when the source that created the shadow was identified. Crappy use of a follow spot if you ask me, but heck they didn't even bother to polish the piano, so I guess we shouldn't expect them to know how to do good lighting either, that is unless they wanted to make her look bad, which is a possibility.



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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:54 AM
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7. Self delete...
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 06:55 AM by mrgerbik
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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:41 AM
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5. very nice pics. .....so....
.... why didn't the buildings that are completely draped in WTC debris didn't sustain "major damage", catch fire then proceed to pancake to the ground like wtc7.

Can someone identify the buildings so we know what we are looking at here?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:45 AM
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10. You mean like WTC5?
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 07:47 AM by DoYouEverWonder


Or like this one?



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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:47 AM
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6. Why weren't these released in the first place? n/t
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Generarth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:07 AM
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9. Misleading dates on that file - photos are from 20 September.
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 07:17 AM by Generarth
As you can see if you open the photographs up in a text editor.

NIKONE950 V981-762001:09:20 19:49:09

Also they've been cleaned up in Photoshop,

Photoshop 3.08
Resolution 8BIM
etc etc
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