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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 08:55 PM
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1/13/02 Top German Spy Calls Official 9/11 story BS. Remember this? Yup.
I just stumble on a wealth of stories from the late 90s through April 2002 put together at:
http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:_T4e6JNc-OQJ:www.cooperativeresearch.org/referencelists/wotreflist1.html+saudis+gave+millions+to+bin+laden+august+2002+UK&hl=en

But this really stood out and I remember reading it at the time. Remember your friends and family thinking you were wacky to suggest LIHOP, nevermind MIHOP? (If you were born yesterday, that stands for Let It Happen On Purpose and Make It Happen On Purpose.) I know that many du-ers still chide us for being anywhere from kooky to gullible to irresponsible. Well, read this and think of all we've learned to corroborate our suspicions.

It appears that Andreas von Bülow, the former head of the parliamentary commission that oversees the German secret services from 1969-1994 knew of what he spoke about our 'Schnitzel Hunt'. A gutted Constitution, two invasions and a permanent 'war' have since been made our burden and the neocon White House's glory...protecting our freedoms...
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http://www.americanfreepress.net/01_21_02/German_Spy_Says_U_S__Wrong/german_spy_says_u_s__wrong.html

Former Top German Spy Says U.S. Wrong About September 11
A top German spook refutes the official version of what happened on Sept. 11, questioning why hasn’t Congress called for a special inquiry to investigate what really occurred on that terrible day.

Exclusive to American Free Press

By Christopher Bollyn

The German newspaper, Der Tagesspiegel, recently interviewed Andreas von Bülow, the former head of the parliamentary commission that oversees the German secret services, about the terror attacks of Sept. 11.

Von Bülow, who was interviewed by AFP in early December, said the provocative Tagesspiegel interview, published on Jan. 13, was the first time the German press had asked him about the problems surrounding the attacks.

“The planning of the attacks was technically and organizationally a master achievement—to hijack four huge airplanes within a few minutes and within one hour, to drive them into their targets, with complicated flight maneuvers,” said von Bülow in the Tagesspiegel interview. “This is unthinkable, without years of support from state intelligence services.”

This led the interviewer to call von Bülow “a conspiracy theorist.”

“Yeah, yeah. That’s the ridicule from those who prefer to follow the official, politically correct line,” von Bülow responded. “Even investigative journalists are fed propaganda and disinformation. Anyone who doubts the official line is called crazy.”

>snip<

Von Bülow, who controlled the budgets of German intelligence from 1969 to 1994, cannot understand why Congress has not opened a formal investigation into the attacks and the failure of American intelligence agencies to prevent them.

>snip<

“With the help of the horrifying attacks, the Western mass democracies are being subjected to brainwashing. The enemy image of anti-communism doesn’t work anymore; it is to be replaced by peoples of Islamic belief. They are accused of having given birth to suicidal terrorism.”

>snip<

The huge raw material reserves of the former Soviet Union, as well as the pipeline routes, are now at the disposal of the United States and Britain.
The fact that the events of Sept. 11 “fit perfectly in the concept of the armaments industry, the intelligence agencies, the whole military-industrial-academic complex,” von Bülow says, is “conspicuous.”

“What has gone on, and goes on, in the name of intelligence services, are true crimes,” von Bülow said. He is the author of Im Namen des Staates, a book which documents some of the criminal activities of the CIA and the German intelligence services.”
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:03 PM
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1. Christopher Bollyn
is an Nazi apologist and professional historical revisionist.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=32

House "journalist" Christopher Bollyn, who works for Carto's anti-Semitic American Free Press (a new incarnation of his Spotlight newspaper), said he knew something was fishy thanks to a friend in Denmark who taped 1,200 hours of news coverage of the attacks — much of which was later edited out by news services with a secret agenda.

One of those tapes showed "someone coming out of the towers" who said "he was hit by a bomb in the building. But then the FBI took him away."

The government, Bollyn added, sold the World Trade Center to "a strip club owner and he then insured the buildings quickly for $3 billion and now he wants $7 billion. ... So for $100 million in borrowed money he gets $3 billion."

Bollyn also objected to the use of an Iranian engineer to examine the collapse of the Trade Center's towers. "Don't they have any American engineers?"

http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/stories/RussiaRevisionistsGather.ht...

HOLOCAUST DENIERS from around the world convened in Moscow at a nazi-sponsored international historical revisionist conference in January. The two-day event at the Social Humanities academy, entitled "The Global Problems of World History" brought together prominent Auschwitz liars from the USA, Australia, Switzerland, Austria, Sweden, Bulgaria and Russia.
....

The American journalist Christopher Bollyn, failed - without any official explanation offered - to get a Russian visa and his paper, "The events of 11 September and its consequences", was read out to participants.

.......

Top of the bill were another two Americans, David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan leader, and Russell Granata. Duke spoke on the "The Zionist factor in the USA" and Russian and foreign guests were quick to show their appreciation of the presence of this particularly slimy pillar of revisionism.








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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:10 PM
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2. who are you truly trying to discredit?
Is Bollyn interjecting his own perjudices in the interview. Not that I can tell. Is it your intent to discredit Von Bulow by discrediting Bollyn?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:19 PM
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3. The only thing I am trying to do
is to make sure that people know that anything Bollyn prints has little to do with reality.

It would not surprise me in the least if the interview is completely fabricated by Bollyn. He is a professinal historical revisionist and anti-semitic.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:28 PM
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4. After reading the interview
Von Bülow is a nut job too.
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:00 PM
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5. Really?
Really? How?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:28 AM
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6. From the transcript
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/VonBuelow.html

My comments are enclosed in parentheses


Von Buelow:
--which were not able to prevent the attacks. In fact, they didn't even have an inkling they would happen. (Show to be false) For 60 decisive minutes, the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on the ground, (Has since been shown to be false) 48 hours later, however, the FBI presented a list of suicide attackers. Within ten days, it emerged that seven of them were still alive. (One would think the ex head of the German intelligence budget would at least have a concept that false identities were used. Also the guys was in charge of the budget, does he really have any knowledge about the intelligence world after being retired for ten years as the chief money man)

I could go on but without doubt you will not question Von Buelow position so enjoy
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:58 AM
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7. No top spy
Mr. von Bülow was so kind to invite me two years ago to his house to exchange thoughts. He gave me some wonderfull hints, but I am sorry that I must ask why he himself did not foloow them in consequence.

He was member of the German Bundestag, a lawmaker, a lawyer by profession, minister of scinece and technology and state secretary. He was never top spy - but in top position to overview the budgets and in a special commission concerning an east-west secret-service-deal.

Some points of him which I agre to are:
"For 60 decisive minutes, the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on the ground, (Has since been shown to be false). No. Not false. still very right. There is no evidence of scrambling fighters before 10:00. The OTIS and the Langley- stories are pure fiction. No mentioning of Andrews AFB - evidence of lying.

And Bülow is very right about the no-identification of the alleged hijackers. The claim "that false identities were used" sys what? That there were real identities. Which ones? Who are they? In fact they showed us photos of nobodies. And no evidence of that these nobodies entered the planes.

I do not want to point out the points where I disagree to von Bülow. They are well known.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:33 PM
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8. exactly
I haven't yet decided if he is completely bonkers, or if he just wants to make money with his former status as a minister and house member.
Seeing how often he is introduced as former minister of defence (he never was minister of defence) and considering that he lost all offices long before 9/11, I have to wonder about the people still printing his tales.
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